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Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:21 PM May 2019

New evidence of Obstruction of Justice by Trump

Or is this breaking news another instance of Obstruction of Justice, by Trump?

Transcript released of Flynn voicemail from Trump lawyer showing possible attempt to obstruct [justice]
By Katelyn Polantz, CNN
Updated 4:56 PM ET, Fri May 31, 2019

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department on Friday released a transcript of a call from Donald Trump's attorney John Dowd to Rob Kelner, the lawyer for Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, where he sought information about Flynn's discussions with the special counsel.

However, the Justice Department refused to turn over transcripts of Flynn's calls with Russian officials, including then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, as was expected after Judge Emmet Sullivan ordered prosecutors to file those publicly.

The transcript was submitted to a federal court in Washington following a judge's order to submit it.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/michael-flynn-john-dowd-voicemail/index.html?cid=web-alerts&nsid=33775255

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New evidence of Obstruction of Justice by Trump (Original Post) Jeffersons Ghost May 2019 OP
Okay, can we start impeachment proceedings now?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #1
Not if we REALLY want Teflon Don impeached... Jeffersons Ghost May 2019 #2
The House impeaches... so, impeach the Shitstain already!! This isn't that hard!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #4
Don't need Senate to follow constitution and hurt Republicans politically, that's a fact uponit7771 Jun 2019 #17
Nope, not now angrychair May 2019 #3
Okay, okay, but how much longer? What do you think would be the OPTIMUM time to start InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #6
Sorry angrychair May 2019 #7
LMAO...thought you were SERIOUS!! I'm with YOU... as Nike likes to say, just do it!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #8
This Republican Senate needs to be voted out C_U_L8R May 2019 #5
Nothing happens with impeachment of Trump, until Repukes get voted out of the Senate... Jeffersons Ghost Jun 2019 #12
This judge is not going to let Trump's DOJ get away with dissing procon May 2019 #9
Haul them in to court to explain sdfernando May 2019 #10
Let it rip. Harker May 2019 #11
Justice Department Refuses Court Order To Release Michael Flynn Voicemails spanone Jun 2019 #13
"Transcript released of Flynn voicemail from Trump lawyer showing possible attempt to obstruct" Jeffersons Ghost Jun 2019 #14
Why is it always"potential"? Fuck. It is. Period. triron Jun 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Jeffersons Ghost Jun 2019 #15
We need to create a compelling case? Sigh. triron Jun 2019 #16

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
2. Not if we REALLY want Teflon Don impeached...
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:48 PM
May 2019

At least two-thirds of the GOP controlled US Senate must agree to impeach a president.

Senate GOP vows to quickly quash any impeachment charges
BY ALEXANDER BOLTON

GOP senators say that if the House passes articles of impeachment against President Trump they will quickly quash them in the Senate, where Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has broad authority to set the parameters of a trial.

While McConnell is required to act on articles of impeachment, which require 67 votes — or a two-thirds majority — to convict the president, he and his Republican colleagues have the power to set the rules and ensure the briefest of trials.

“I think it would be disposed of very quickly,” said Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/445512-senate-gop-pledges-to-quickly-quash-any-trump-impeachment-charges

Pelosi and other Democrats in the House of Representatives know what they are doing, as Trump continues to dig his own grave!


on edit: Also a failed impeachment would consolidate Trump's voter base. You know what that means, correct? "Poor Trump being bullied and railroaded by those nasty, tree-hugging Democrats" etc.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
4. The House impeaches... so, impeach the Shitstain already!! This isn't that hard!!
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:52 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
3. Nope, not now
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:50 PM
May 2019

Gosh, if it was just on video in front of a hundred people, then maybe we start to talk about it.

Just wait some more...almost there

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
6. Okay, okay, but how much longer? What do you think would be the OPTIMUM time to start
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:57 PM
May 2019

impeachment proceedings to get the MAXIMUM effect of sinking tRumpty Dumb-ty's 2020 chances?


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
7. Sorry
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:06 PM
May 2019

Should have added the thing

The House Judiciary committee should hold a vote Monday morning to start formal impeachment hearings.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
8. LMAO...thought you were SERIOUS!! I'm with YOU... as Nike likes to say, just do it!!
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:22 PM
May 2019

Thanks for the laugh!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
5. This Republican Senate needs to be voted out
Fri May 31, 2019, 05:56 PM
May 2019

No matter what happens with Trump. And especially if he happens to “win” the next election. It could be the last hope any of us have.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
12. Nothing happens with impeachment of Trump, until Repukes get voted out of the Senate...
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 08:51 AM
Jun 2019

except a failed impeachment attempt that consolidates his voter base.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. This judge is not going to let Trump's DOJ get away with dissing
Fri May 31, 2019, 06:24 PM
May 2019

her orders. "The judge had told prosecutors they needed to make public redacted sections of the report that pertained to Flynn by today."

They don't just get to arbitrarily countermand the court and say that they don't believe they need to hand over other recording transcripts involving Flynn. Neener, neener, neener!

DOJ heads will be handed out in this one.

sdfernando

(4,947 posts)
10. Haul them in to court to explain
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:21 PM
May 2019

Then while they are there have the bailiffs arrest and jail them for contempt. Stir, mix, and repeat with the next set that shows up.

Harker

(14,040 posts)
11. Let it rip.
Fri May 31, 2019, 08:24 PM
May 2019

It'll occupy the moron's ego and "mind" until he's removed or defeated.

It's the right thing to do. Stop appeasement now!

spanone

(135,886 posts)
13. Justice Department Refuses Court Order To Release Michael Flynn Voicemails
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:08 AM
Jun 2019

Last edited Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)

05/31/2019 08:32 pm ET

The Justice Department refused on Friday to cooperate with a judge’s demand that it publicly release transcripts of recorded conversations between Michael Flynn and Russia’s ambassador to the United States in December 2016.

The refusal was a response to U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, who ordered earlier this month that the Justice Department release several materials related to the case against Flynn, who was President Donald Trump’s campaign adviser and his national security adviser until being ousted for lying about his contacts with the Russians.

In their refusal, the federal prosecutors said they hadn’t used those recordings of Flynn’s conversations to establish his guilt or recommend a sentencing.

“The government further represents that it is not relying on any other recordings, of any person, for purposes of establishing the defendant’s guilt or determining his sentence, nor are there other recordings that are part of the sentencing record,” the court filing’s lone statement on the request read.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/justice-department-michael-flynn-voicemail_n_5cf19edee4b0e8085e3a2ecd

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
14. "Transcript released of Flynn voicemail from Trump lawyer showing possible attempt to obstruct"
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jun 2019

Transcript released of Flynn voicemail from Trump lawyer showing possible attempt to obstruct [justice]
By Katelyn Polantz, CNN
Updated 4:56 PM ET, Fri May 31, 2019

If you had read the complete news article, you would have seen this paragraph:

"Overall, the voice mail highlights a call that special counsel Robert Mueller investigated as potential obstruction of justice by the President. Dowd had made the call on November 22, 2017, after Flynn's team said it could no longer communicate with the White House, just before Flynn pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate in Mueller's investigation."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/michael-flynn-john-dowd-voicemail/index.html?cid=web-alerts&nsid=33775255

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