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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC's treatment of Bill Clinton is disgraceful.
This is a man who served our country with distinction. We are so much better off for having elected him.
They just showed clips of ex-presidents on the anniversary of D-day. They showed Reagan, Bush 43, and Obama. They totally excluded Clinton, who was there for the 50th anniversary in a very prominent ceremony.
Shame on them. And let me once again thank our fine former president for his lifetime of service.
CrispyQ
(36,514 posts)A bumper sticker I saw once.
MSNBC only offers some left-leaning shows because they see there's money in it, but their true colors are always there beneath.
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)Marthe48
(17,021 posts)Control the media, control the message.
Even with MSNBC, you have to have your BS filters turned on
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)They only want the corporation to be profitable, which for legit news organizations means ratings and awards. They don't get involved in the news aspect, and no decent news director would work for them, if they did. It's usually in the contract that the news director (or whatever the title) has full control over the reporting of the daily news.
Prime time opinion shows are different from "news," and are more entertainment than news.
The reason Repubs and Trump hate CNN & MSNBC is because the news on those platforms is really news and is unbiased. They think they are liberal. Yet some liberals think they are conservative. For two opposing sides to think a news platform belongs to the other side usually means it's neutral.
The news should not be partisan. It is what it is, although it can have a slant.
As for the story video about former Presidents on D-Day (which is not "news" ), they can't include all the Presidents or even all the recent ones. It could be only so long. Looks like they included the last 2 Presidents (the ones most people are familiar with), and then Reagan, since I think he was the one who established the D-Day tradition, and everyone knows who Reagan was. That's not a diss to Clinton, Carter, Bush Sr., Ford, or anyone else, IMO.
I like some of the people they have in the evening but largely the network is made up of former Republicans who don't like 45. And they expect you to think they are so insightful because of it. Such is the low bar to entry. The soft bigotry of low expectations never seems to end.
hlthe2b
(102,360 posts)https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/l_ypfLETIFCv1QYlPsawFZh_mKw=/1024x596/filters:focal(1872x860:1873x861)/
Carter with French president Valery Giscard d'Estaing at Omaha Beach 1978
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Carter and Bush 41 didn't have major moments at Normandy on the anniversary of D-day. Clinton had a moment that was a pretty big deal at the time.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)It is true that Clinton was President during the 50th anniversary. THAT is why that was a bigger event than usual. However, I think any President .. or any person for that matter .. would find the anniversary of D Day an emotional experience.
Having read John Kerry's comments on D Day, including when he was Secretary of State, the sheer likelihood of dying for those on those boats and the fact that they moved forward knowing that is something that likely has an impact on everyone -- but particularly those who served. In Bush's case, he could very easily have died. (For Kerry, there was the additional fact that his mother and her family lived relatively nearby until the Germans took over their home. A first cousin was the mayor of that town when Kerry was SoS. He first saw those beaches as a very young boy.)
In general, I think that though some in the media have always disliked him, by and large, he was a favorite of most of the media in his run for the Presidency. If he weren't, the various skeletons that fell out in the primary of his race would have destroyed him. I would agree with you that he was charismatic .. but so was Gary Hart .. and between Genefer Flowers and his ever changing story on how he avoided the draft -- there was MORE to question about him than Hart.
Among Democrats and the left leaning side of the media, it was not until the me too movement that many stopped defending him. Gillibrand's criticism was early and a risk. Other than on that aspect of his personality, most of what I read on him in the mainstream media is positive on his terms as President.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)It did not make sense to show Reagan, Bush 43 and Obama but not Clinton. Neither Carter nor Bush 41 had a major D-Day anniversary moment during their presidencies.
I disagree that Clinton was treated well by the media during his presidency.
As for the Me Too movement, it has completely overlooked the facts of history when pillorying Bill Clinton. They have told a ridiculous version of history in which accusations against Bill Clinton were glossed over in the 90s. And they have ignored the fact that these stories had unbelievable problems to them with regards to their credibility.
JHB
(37,162 posts)Carter's service was just after the war, 1946-1953. Not that it takes anything away from it.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I'm surprised that they included Pres O.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Clinton, like Reagan, Bush 43 and Obama, did have such a moment. And MSNBC just eliminated it from history.
question everything
(47,535 posts)And.. many of the MSNBC crowd came from Newsweek that treated both Clintons in 2008 with barbs and disgrace. We did not renew our subscription after that.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)They really jumped on HRC's corpse after she lost. They wrote a disgusting article talking about the reasons she lost and two of the reasons were "no respect for the voters," "arrogance," and "entitlement." They then demanded that she redeem herself and make up for her supposed misdeeds by not making any demands or requests moving forward. They also lamented that she was "whining" about sexism.
It was the epitome of failed journalism, which is saying a lot given the crap we got in the aftermath of 2016. Here is the article.
https://www.newsweek.com/five-reasons-obama-won-and-five-why-clinton-lost-90637
marieo1
(1,402 posts)I agree 100%!!!!! President Bill Clinton was one of my favorite Presidents. The media as well as the Reps are 100% AH's!!
kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)Personally I rarely watch msnbc for that reason during the day.