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sir pball

(4,758 posts) Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:19 AM Jun 2019

Donald the Junior and Eric the Lessor are NOTHING.

Ladies and gentlemen, truly the greatest Presidential family in history:

Roosevelt was the only general on D-Day to land by sea with the first wave of troops. At 56, he was the oldest man in the invasion,[30] and the only one whose son also landed that day; Captain Quentin Roosevelt II was among the first wave of soldiers at Omaha Beach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt_Jr.

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Donald the Junior and Eric the Lessor are NOTHING. (Original Post) sir pball Jun 2019 OP

Odd choice for a title. procon Jun 2019 #1

He did die a month later sir pball Jun 2019 #2

As I recall, he had to fight the War Dept to join the landing and lead his men. lapfog_1 Jun 2019 #3

Yeah, he was verbally denied twice and finally wrote a letter literally begging to land. sir pball Jun 2019 #4

You said it! god damn. Courage, integrity, honor. MLAA Jun 2019 #5

And Service. sir pball Jun 2019 #6

Me either. MLAA Jun 2019 #7

Let alone a 56-year old privileged officer. sir pball Jun 2019 #8

I agree with you. MLAA Jun 2019 #9

procon

(15,805 posts)

1. Odd choice for a title.

Reply to sir pball (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:31 AM

Jun 2019

There is no comparison between the Roosevelt family and the Trumps.

Roosevelt deserves the title for being a bold and fearless leader, if a bit foolhardy for risking his own life when his loss would have affected the war. Glad he wasn't killed or injured.

sir pball

(4,758 posts)

2. He did die a month later

Reply to procon (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:40 AM

Jun 2019

Heart attack. Awarded the Medal of Honor for his courage, as a senior officer who could have opted out, storming the beaches.

My title stands - DonJ and Eric are nothing compared to TRJ.

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)

3. As I recall, he had to fight the War Dept to join the landing and lead his men.

Reply to sir pball (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:46 AM

Jun 2019

being the son of Teddy Roosevelt.

He died in France a month later of a heart attack.

Elliot Roosevelt ( son of FDR) also participated in the D-Day attack as his squadron performed recon over the Normandy site before the invasion.

James Roosevelt (son of FDR) also served as a LT in the Marines during WWII... in the Pacific where he was awarded the Silver Star and Navy Cross.

sir pball

(4,758 posts)

4. Yeah, he was verbally denied twice and finally wrote a letter literally begging to land.

Reply to lapfog_1 (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 02:04 AM

Jun 2019

His dedication to duty is something no Trump could ever comprehend.

Part of his letter pleading to be allowed to be part of the first wave:

The force and skill with which the first elements hit the beach and proceed may determine the ultimate success of the operation.... With troops engaged for the first time, the behavior pattern of all is apt to be set by those first engagements. [It is] considered that accurate information of the existing situation should be available for each succeeding element as it lands. You should have when you get to shore an overall picture in which you can place confidence. I believe I can contribute materially on all of the above by going in with the assault companies. Furthermore I personally know both officers and men of these advance units and believe that it will steady them to know that I am with them.

I don't usually stereotype Manliness, but god damn...

MLAA

(17,318 posts)

5. You said it! god damn. Courage, integrity, honor.

Reply to sir pball (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 02:11 AM

Jun 2019

sir pball

(4,758 posts)

6. And Service.

Reply to MLAA (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 02:15 AM

Jun 2019

Service to one's country, and to a purpose. Not sure if I could do that.

MLAA

(17,318 posts)

7. Me either.

Reply to sir pball (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 02:21 AM

Jun 2019

My dad was sent to Korea at 18 years old. He was in some kind of training when it was abruptly stopped and they were put on ships to go to Korea. So essentially all the training they got was how ever many weeks it to the ship to go from the west coast to Korea. His hands were all shot up and he spent about 6 months in a hospital. Thankfully he regained most of the use of his hands. He also was shot in the chest, but the bullet hit his dog tags first so it wasn’t fatal. I can’t imagine being sent to war anytime, but at 18? Unimaginable.

sir pball

(4,758 posts)

8. Let alone a 56-year old privileged officer.

Reply to MLAA (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 02:30 AM

Jun 2019

He (Roosevelt Jr) literally BEGGED to be allowed to storm the beaches at Normandy...not to diminish what your father did, but if he, you, or I were in a position to avoid the situation I wouldn't fault any of us for avoiding it.

MLAA

(17,318 posts)

9. I agree with you.

Reply to sir pball (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:07 PM

Jun 2019

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