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Sadly... (Original Post) JimGinPA Jun 2019 OP
WOW! Reality in the face. kairos12 Jun 2019 #1
Too true. Karadeniz Jun 2019 #2
Oh, that's wicked! Ligyron Jun 2019 #3
Sad and accurate. n/t Different Drummer Jun 2019 #4
Yes. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2019 #5
Wait.... you seriously forgot the part where it CLEARLY says "well-regulated"? DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #6
Remind me again how the well regulated part has been put into effe PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2019 #8
Just read the text: DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #9
!!! Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #7
And don't forget the most important one: Mike Niendorff Jun 2019 #10

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,894 posts)
5. Yes.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 01:16 AM
Jun 2019

And why I believe we should be confiscating guns. Don't give me any crap about the second amendment. Just remind me why anyone's life is worth more than a gun. Oh, and while you're at it, tell me in detail why the life of your son, or mother, or sister, or any other relative at all, is worth sacrificing to gun ownership. Really? Those lives are worth sacrificing? Ok, maybe for you they are not, but for me they aren't.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
6. Wait.... you seriously forgot the part where it CLEARLY says "well-regulated"?
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 01:58 AM
Jun 2019

The NRA has issued 100 proclamations about the right to bare arms for every squeaky reminder that we also must REGULATE the stupid, dangerous and ass backwards technology.

Oh, and today's tech are no longer muskets so NONE of it is protected by the US Constitution.

People! Think everything through.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,894 posts)
8. Remind me again how the well regulated part has been put into effe
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 02:10 AM
Jun 2019

I think you and I are pretty much on the same page.

I am heartily sick of people pussy-footing around this issue. Guns are wrong. Guns kill people. Allowing unregulated guns means people die. Doesn't anyone really notice that countries with strong regulations against guns don't have mass shootings? Doesn't anyone ever ask why that is the case? Don't you notice that Australia and recently New Zealand enacted strong gun control laws after a mass shooting? And no more mass shootings have occurred? Coincidence? Really?

I am seriously considering leaving this country, not because of our current idiot President, but because of mass murder with guns.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
9. Just read the text:
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 02:57 AM
Jun 2019

2nd Amendment

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's full of grammatical and logical holes and not only wide open to interpretation, it opens with the assumption that the arms policy is to ensure a well regulated militia and produce security and freedom. We have no such regulation, we have no security in our schools, houses of worship and other public spaces, and we do not enjoy the freedom to go almost anywhere or even to soeak our minds for fesr of being shot.

So it can be argued that what follows is absurd and not a right.

It also does not define "arms". That is a completely arbitrary decision wherein on any given decade we have drawn the line somewhere between a musket and a nuclear bomb.

All we need is to insist that every goddamn fucking American start thinking about important things — that, oooh, politics thing. Don't let them hide. Insist that they become adults already.

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