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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat's the next move for Nadler's Committee?
Since they cannot get any of the witnesses that they need, what do they do next?
Is it possible for these witnesses to ignore subpoenas and contempt charges without any repercussions?
Yesterday was an attempt to educate the people about the Mueller report. How successful was it?
The Courts will eventually have to decide if the Congress has a right to oversight and if these subpoenas are a legitimate exercise? However, justice delayed is justice denied. They should be on a fast track if the balance of powers is to remain intact.
Congress has the power if they choose to use it.
There is an old saying: Use it or lose it.
watoos
(7,142 posts)the House is voting to give Nadler the authority to request the grand jury information from the judge. Nadler has been asking Barr to ask the judge to release the testimony but Barr has refused.
So even if Nadler gets the House's ok and even if the judge agrees to release the grand jury information to the House, will Barr/Trump appeal and will we be back in court again with no decisions until after the election?
One thing for sure, Democrats have a much better chance of getting that grand jury information if it was requested from an impeachment hearing.
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)won't get the grand jury testimony. Whether it's part of an impeachment inquiry or as part of the judicial oversight into the Mueller Report, he'll get it.
And I personally am not too upset with the timing. Yes, Trump/Barr will most certainly appeal any decision made by the judge. However, as Judge Mehta ruled in the Trump accounting records subpoena, the appeal will be fast tracked which will speed up the process somewhat.
A big part of the case that the House will show is that they have given the administration more than ample opportunity to work this out but have refused to do so under a mutually agreeable format.
I happen to think Judge Mehta's rulings will set the precedence for future appeals.
But, FYI - this request is not being made for oversight purposes. The petition is being made under the same clause of the same sentence of the Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure that permits release of grand jury materials to impeachment proceedings or proceedings preliminary to impeachment proceedings - in terms of its validity and weight, this request is legally and practically indistinguishable from one made in connection with an impeachment proceeding.
Pelosi and Nadler set this up just right.
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)not a lawyer so whenever I can get clarification on the underlying principles, it helps me understand just that much better.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)just an old guy who loves politics.
Although in a previous live, did major in political science and who have loved to afford law school.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)It's a great way to use your skills in a legal context. They desperately need help from people like you!
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)but right now, time is not my friend.