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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs duing "the right thing" re impeachment ok even if it costs us the House in 2020? If we give back
the red district House seats after we did "the right thing" will you feel justified?
Nancy doesn't think so.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)How did Impeachment hurt them again?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Sick of this shit about it hurting somehow.
The GOP was so "damaged" they won even more.
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BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)than a referendum on the Clinton years. It was dumb.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Say, if you had a crystal ball.
It's politically smart not to answer hypotheticals like this. Of course, once you do the politically smart thing and don't answer, then we are no longer talking about morality, we are talking politics.
brooklynite
(94,572 posts)Gore lost in 2000 because he was a poor candidate who chose to shy away from a popular President.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)That is why the American public were so frustrated with Republicans impeaching Clinton. But they understood why Nixon was forced from office. But they didn't understand his crimes before impeachment was actually underway.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)This is an entirely different situation in a completely different time, in an altogether different environment, with a totally different electorate, so I'm not sure how the Clinton impeachment and its political aftermath are in anyway predictive of the political outcome of a Trump impeachment.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)The OP is asserting that impeachment=loss of the House in 2020.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)sides are pointing to the Clinton impeachment as proof for their position. My point is that the Clinton impeachment tells us nothing about the potential political fallout of a Trump impeachment.
I haven't weighed in on either side of the argument, partly for that reason.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Will you and Nancy feel vindicated?
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I would take any legal course of action that is most likely to get rid of Trump, regardless of whether it's "the right thing" or not.
watoos
(7,142 posts)even if it costs us the House in 2020?
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)before the election, Pence takes office, pardons Trump and he walks from all possible federal charges.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)is the right thing.
To punish the Trump Crime family, we need to get as many people to vote Dem in 2020 as possible.
If we lose, they are less likely to ever go to prison where they belong.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)than in midterms. If there was ever a time where Democrats could afford to take that risk it is now. If we don't impeach Trump maybe we can still win a close Presidential election, but there will be no way we can take the Senate without the extra energy to our base impeaching Trump will bring us. Then in 2022 we will lose the house and sense whoever the Democratic President is he or she will get nothing done due to republican obstruction and a republican will be president come 2024.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)I don't have any reason to believe that "doing the right thing" would cost us anything politically, and it's very possible that failing to do so could cause us much greater harm.
Basically, I don't buy into your underlying assumptions.