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gulliver

(13,181 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 08:39 PM Jun 2019

Stephanopoulos got owned by Trump

Stephanopoulos should have asked Trump, "If you think it's Ok to take campaign help from a foreign government, why did you dictate a memo that gave a false reason for the Trump Tower meeting between Don Jr., Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, and the Russians? Doesn't that show that you knew it was wrong?"

Instead, Stephanopoulos just let Trump "publicize" a professed ignorance of (and disagreement with) the common understanding of the right thing to do. Trump knew what he and his campaign did was wrong. Lying about the Trump Tower meeting shows that.

Today was all about Trump selling the idea that he didn't (and doesn't) think his team not calling the FBI was wrong. He's selling the idea that he and his team didn't knowingly do something wrong. But somehow he knew it was wrong when he dictated the false memo. Did he forget that he knew it was wrong at that time? Does the fact that Mueller Report nails him for eagerly accepting Russian campaign help have anything to do with his forgetting that?

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Stephanopoulos got owned by Trump (Original Post) gulliver Jun 2019 OP
That's because he's paid to suck. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2019 #1
When he didn't respond by saying "That's collusion and it's illegal!" he got owned. LonePirate Jun 2019 #2
It's illegal? You sure about that? nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #7
Yes, it is illegal to accept anything of value (oppo research or dirt) from a foreign power. LonePirate Jun 2019 #9
Good time to point out too Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #16
Trump is normalizing anti-Americanism. blm Jun 2019 #3
Sometimes you let the witness hang himself Stallion Jun 2019 #4
That's it, thanks. UTUSN Jun 2019 #5
That's right you let the slippery muthafucka talk ...he's going to anyway. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #8
Stephanopoulos threw the FBI director's statement in his face. Then he shared the tape with... Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2019 #6
Sometimes it's better not to try to argue with a fool StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #10
Exactly! nt Raine Jun 2019 #11
he should have followed with "so you are open to a meeting with any and all governments that have grantcart Jun 2019 #12
It's only a matter of time FakeNoose Jun 2019 #13
George could have also brought up the Steele Dossier ut oh Jun 2019 #14
Little Georgie casts no shadow on the field of journalist legends. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2019 #15
No, Trump's statement was significant and could well have important repercussions. Nitram Jun 2019 #17
I wish that were the case, but unfortunately it isn't. gulliver Jun 2019 #18
I heartily disagree. If you think a public confession by Trump that he is a traitor will help him, Nitram Jun 2019 #23
He was caught off guard Lulu KC Jun 2019 #19
He really wasn't. gulliver Jun 2019 #20
Stephanopoulous could get owned WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2019 #21
that wouldn't have made any difference. Trump will just spew bs again JI7 Jun 2019 #22
Stephanopoulos did great, from what I saw. He got Trump to say some truly damning things... Hekate Jun 2019 #24
George should've asked DT would it then be okay for Biden to get help Bhkylib Jun 2019 #25
What happened to 'ignorance of the law is no excuse'? US4u2 Jun 2019 #26
That very thought crossed my mind, too Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #28
Hmmm.... nt sarabelle Jun 2019 #27
That was only a snippet of the 30 hours Stephanopolous DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #29

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
9. Yes, it is illegal to accept anything of value (oppo research or dirt) from a foreign power.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:30 PM
Jun 2019

Asking for it skirts a line that may not be illegal. Accepting it is a whole different ball game.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
16. Good time to point out too
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:46 PM
Jun 2019

that- if I'm remember correctly- Republican Congressional Candidates also reportedly used some of the Wikileaks DNC info dump material in their campaigns.

blm

(113,063 posts)
3. Trump is normalizing anti-Americanism.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 08:51 PM
Jun 2019

Last edited Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:25 PM - Edit history (1)

And lawlessness.

I think most media is seeing this.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,839 posts)
6. Stephanopoulos threw the FBI director's statement in his face. Then he shared the tape with...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jun 2019

...other networks. I think Trump got owned.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. he should have followed with "so you are open to a meeting with any and all governments that have
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:49 PM
Jun 2019

information to smear Vice President Biden?




The Director of the FBI should resign.

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
13. It's only a matter of time
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:01 PM
Jun 2019

Sooner or later Chump is going to admit he silently listened in on the Russian meeting via speakerphone.

I'm actually surprised he didn't admit it today, but he can't wait to tell the next reporter. That's Chump's idea of owning reporters, as if he's the only one who knew something or he thought of it first. Chump was close to hanging himself today and Stephanopoulos just kept quiet and let him do it.

ut oh

(895 posts)
14. George could have also brought up the Steele Dossier
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jun 2019

He could have responded, "Then you're ok with the Steele Dossier, right? And since you're ok with it, why are you asking Barr to investigate it's creation?

I find that George does this quite often in his show 'This Week'. He'll ask a question of a Republican, do a half assed follow up question (playing at asking the tough questions) and then just move on even if the question or the 'follow up challenge' wasn't answered.

That seems to be what he did with his interview of Captain Tiny Hands...

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
17. No, Trump's statement was significant and could well have important repercussions.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 07:15 PM
Jun 2019

You've got it backwards. The fact that Stephanopoulos got Trump to make that admission was brilliant. The president just said he'd willingly take help from a foreign country to win the 2020 election. Stop and think about that for a minute...

gulliver

(13,181 posts)
18. I wish that were the case, but unfortunately it isn't.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jun 2019

Trump had every intention of saying he would take foreign help if it were offered and wouldn't necessarily call the FBI. It wasn't an admission cleverly prompted by Stephanopoulos. It's what Trump wanted to tell the world, and it serves him well to do so.

If Trump and his team hadn't been caught dead to rights by Mueller eagerly accepting Russian help in Trump's election, then, yeah, he would now be saying it's wrong to accept foreign help and the FBI should be called. But Trump isn't really "only" saying he would take Russian help in the future and that Wray is wrong about that being wrong. More to the point for him, Trump is cunningly implying that his and his team's past behavior wasn't wrong and, most importantly, that he never thought it was wrong.

Trump got that payload delivered. It's not great for him that he felt he had to go on the record saying something as nutty as what he said. But it's better for him that he be thought to have a ridiculous idea of the propriety of taking foreign help than it is for him to be known to have known it was improper and to have done it anyway.

But that's what he and his team did. They did something they knew was wrong. That's "mens rea." That's damning.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
23. I heartily disagree. If you think a public confession by Trump that he is a traitor will help him,
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:34 PM
Jun 2019

I believe you are mistaken. Trump is a delusional narcissist who has no idea what the Constitution and laws of the country require of the elected officials. Nobody but tump would have made such a stupid error. But it is only one in a long string of unforced errors he's made due to hubris and the support of a craven GOP Senate majority. One more step towards impeachment and indictment.

gulliver

(13,181 posts)
20. He really wasn't.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:08 PM
Jun 2019

He's trying to inoculate himself and (at least) Don Jr. by, effectively, lying and saying that he doesn't think collusion is wrong.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
21. Stephanopoulous could get owned
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 08:17 PM
Jun 2019

by a high school journalism student. He's been choking since Clinton's haircut at LAX.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
24. Stephanopoulos did great, from what I saw. He got Trump to say some truly damning things...
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 03:36 AM
Jun 2019

Kept feeding Trump more rope, as it were, enough rope to hang him.

 

Bhkylib

(26 posts)
25. George should've asked DT would it then be okay for Biden to get help
Fri Jun 14, 2019, 04:43 AM
Jun 2019

from the Iranians and Chinese? Why didn't he throw it back in his face? No way Trump would've said it would be okay for a Democrat to get help from a foreign power.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
28. That very thought crossed my mind, too
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:09 AM
Jun 2019

And it boggles the mind that actual lawyers are advising him otherwise.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
29. That was only a snippet of the 30 hours Stephanopolous
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 06:03 AM
Jun 2019

spent with Trump. More of the interview is set to air Sunday at 8PM on ABC.

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