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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:22 PM Jun 2019

Unprecedented

Everyone is debating about what should be done about the high crimes and misdemeanors of Donald J Trump?

They are looking at examples of the past to guide them.

Unfortunately, there are no examples that fit the present law-breaking or the smashing of norms.

Because it has never happened before. The crimes are being committed in broad daylight and portrayed as something totally innocent.

The Congress and the citizenry must look at it from a new perspective. It is unprecedented. We are working in new territory. We must come up with new solutions.

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. Continue the conald drumpf administration criminal investigations with subpoenas,
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jun 2019

contempt charges, indictments, prosecutions and sentences for the whole damn crew. Just keep grinding it out one criminal at a time!

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
2. The Congress needs to create their own roadmap.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:31 PM
Jun 2019

They have to make their own path. There are no other rules to follow. It is up to them.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
3. well...it wasn't too hard to hire a private investigations firm in 2016 who then hired
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jun 2019

someone to poke around, put his ear to the wall, and offer up what he found.

There have been only more and more people, connections, misbehavior, information, and buzz in the Trump orbit since...why can't there be some private investigations used? Sure they block official subpoenas and "requests" for information but do we need a domestic Steele that can find out what the hell is going on?

SO MANY LOOSE ENDS. How can we get progress on tying them off?

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
5. And all the crimes, breaking of norms,
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jun 2019

spitting on the Constitution, etc. either tacitly supported by the silence of complicit Republican Congresspeople, or worse, their active aiding and abetting.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
6. Impeach over dereliction of duty.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jun 2019

The whole mess is of course political. I say impeach, ASAP over dereliction of duty of not protecting our election from foreign influence and hacking (which the former is clearly spelled out by all our security agencies).

I passes in the house easy. Then the Senate GOP has a choice: Defend Trump and thusly show their cards, showing they too are traitors. That would hopefully cause record turnout in 2020.

If the Senate GOP impeaches Trump they will suffer at the polls too.

Make it a clean impeachment. One issue: dereliction of duty. Stick it to the Senate GOP.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
7. As Sen. Lindsey Graham says impeachment
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 11:23 PM
Jun 2019

Is about cleansing the office, about restoring integrity to the Presidency.
No peace treaty or Armistice was ever signed with our Enemy N. Korea. So, adding and abetting, that particular Enemy is treason.
We have at least 50,000 United States soldiers and sailors in S Korea, Okinawa, and in the surrounding waters 24 / 7 / 365. Most of those live between Seoul and 1,000,000 N Korean troops.
Think about the burden they carry.
Lighten their load oust drumpf.

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
8. ...we're...
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jun 2019

...definitely in uncharted territory and we always seem to be treading water...we must like treading water...

...Nancy seems to want to run out the clock on the 2020 election on the assumption it won't be stolen by trump and putin with fake media and vote tampering...bad assumption?

...until further notice, I feel we should reject the results of the 2020 election unless the results can be independently proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the results were uncorrupt and legitimate...

...right now the whole system looks corrupt and bogus to me from top to bottom...too many people in power are getting rich not doing their job as they destroy our democracy...

...very sad for our children, grandchildren and future...

...remember, keep your powder dry...

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