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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:44 PM Jun 2019

What the F*** is going on there America?

Trump Just Invited Impeachment Proceedings

June 12, 2019 at 10:14 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 18 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/12/trump-just-invited-impeachment-proceedings/

"SNIP....

George Conway and Neil Katyal: “Much ink has been spilled about whether President Trump committed a criminal and impeachable offense by obstructing justice. That question deserves extensive debate, but another critical question — the ultimate question, really — is not whether he committed a crime but whether he is even fit for office in the first place. And that question — the heart of an impeachment inquiry — turns upon whether the president abuses his power and demonstrates an unfitness to serve under the defining principles of our Constitution.”

“On Tuesday, Trump gave us direct evidence of his contempt toward the most foundational precept of our democracy — that no person, not even the president, is above the law. He filed a brief in the nation’s second-most-important court that takes the position that Congress cannot investigate the president, except possibly in impeachment proceedings. It’s a spectacularly anti-constitutional brief, and anyone who harbors such attitudes toward our Constitution’s architecture is not fit for office. Trump’s brief is nothing if not an invitation to commencing impeachment proceedings that, for reasons set out in the Mueller report, should have already commenced.”

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What the F*** is going on there America? (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2019 OP
Why does he want to be impeached? applegrove Jun 2019 #1
to get acquitted by the senate AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #3
I'd like to know how that would work Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #8
who is in charge of election systems in states he must win? AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #9
Then you're basically saying that we're screwed no matter what? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #10
I'd like to jump in here to say... GReedDiamond Jun 2019 #19
The GOP is losing credibility. How do you think the average American will regard any Maraya1969 Jun 2019 #11
I wish people wouldn't call him that anarch Jun 2019 #12
they won't televise on faux news AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #13
Impeachment investigations in the House would be reported on in local news. Maraya1969 Jun 2019 #14
I Would Hope That The Impeachment Proceedings Would Be Televised.... global1 Jun 2019 #17
My thoughts exactly. SergeStorms Jun 2019 #24
THIS! Maraya1969 Jun 2019 #27
To play victim/martyr. Fund raise. Incite his base. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #4
Yep. Playing the victim is his favorite pasttime after stealing other peoples' money. GoCubsGo Jun 2019 #18
He is not smart enough to think of half this stuff. pangaia Jun 2019 #2
but also don't think he is stupid AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #5
You are absolutely right. Who's behind the curtain I wonder. nt live love laugh Jun 2019 #23
What's going on is he is 100% sure that Nancy will never impeach him ecstatic Jun 2019 #6
not even close AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #7
He's trying to bait the Dems and get them hooked on the prospect. Initech Jun 2019 #15
That's my take. That he wants to be impeached now with the evidence the applegrove Jun 2019 #16
Oh he's such a petty bully. Initech Jun 2019 #22
Agree with you 100%. MFGsunny Jun 2019 #26
To put it behind him as quickly as possible sop Jun 2019 #20
THIS !!!! A long Dawn out process is impeachment won't help Republicans uponit7771 Jun 2019 #25
According to someone who spent time with Trump watoos Jun 2019 #21
We are in a four alarm fire. This is a crisis that makes mahina Jun 2019 #28

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
8. I'd like to know how that would work
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:57 PM
Jun 2019

If we don't at least try to impeach him, he can stake an ever greater claim of "exoneration." If he is impeached but "acquitted" by a partisan Republican Senate, it's not nearly as powerful IMHO. Even worse if some Republicans vote to convict in the Senate and/or vote for AOI in the House. I don't think that he has smooth path to re-election in 2020 regardless, however. The Democratic base is more and more energized to vote against him IMHO.

GReedDiamond

(5,313 posts)
19. I'd like to jump in here to say...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:47 PM
Jun 2019

..."we're screwed no matter what" if the electoral process is compromised again, as has become a kind of "thing" over the last two decades.

Trump misAdmin/republic party political hacks have blocked the cyberhacking protections that were supposed to be in place, if I am not mistaken.

I will vote for whoever the Dem nominee is - OF COURSE! - but I do not have full faith in the security/integrity of our elections systems.

Especially now that today, Preznit Anus Mouth, said that he would, again, be happy to benefit from outside interference from foreign gubmints during his 2020 "re-election" campaign.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
11. The GOP is losing credibility. How do you think the average American will regard any
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:13 PM
Jun 2019

GOP senator who votes for acquittal after all the testimony is openly discussed during the impeachment trials?

The trials are what will ruin this bastard. Televised trials on the actual details of crimes committed by this whore of a president.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
12. I wish people wouldn't call him that
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jun 2019

the P-word I mean, not "whore". He certainly is a whore, in the wider sense of the word...not to deride sex workers, for whom I have much greater respect than I do for the idiot mob-stooge who is occupying the White House.

global1

(25,251 posts)
17. I Would Hope That The Impeachment Proceedings Would Be Televised....
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:40 PM
Jun 2019

in total on Network TV for all Americans to see. I believe I watched the Clinton impeachment on Network TV.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
24. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:44 AM
Jun 2019

I've been demanding this for months now. At least get those GOP Senators on the congressional record as supporting the criminal Trump administration. Then they can go back to their districts and explain why they support criminal enterprise in the highest office in the land! I think the criminals and those abetting criminals in the GOP controlled Senate are in for a RUDE awakening in 2020. I actually think democrats can take back the Senate - as well as the White House - while still retaining the House of Representatives. The only way that can happen though is if we expose the GOP for the criminals and abettors they are.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
27. THIS!
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:09 AM
Jun 2019
The only way that can happen though is if we expose the GOP for the criminals and abettors they are."

Right now most people have no idea how corrupts the GOP is. Putting a bunch of them through televised in depth questioning as to what they have really been doing for the last few years will make a big impact on how they are viewed by the people who, right now, have no idea that they have done any wrong.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
18. Yep. Playing the victim is his favorite pasttime after stealing other peoples' money.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:44 PM
Jun 2019

It's a twofer.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
2. He is not smart enough to think of half this stuff.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jun 2019

As pure evil as he is, he is also being led by the nose....

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
5. but also don't think he is stupid
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:52 PM
Jun 2019

he is evil, there is a difference. What he does has been working for him quite well. Any other person would be done by now with 1/10 the shit trump pulled off. He managed to manipulate the media like no one else every step of the way. He is willing to make a fool of himself to get the media spinning. Media loves it - rich content and record ratings. The media now needs trump like a drug, they’ll do anything to help trump win.

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
6. What's going on is he is 100% sure that Nancy will never impeach him
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jun 2019

I really hope that's not true and that there are limits (and the limit was passed today). If trump and the rethugs start to truly believe that democrats will never act, we're fucked. Seriously.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
7. not even close
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:55 PM
Jun 2019

If he goes outside WH now and randomly shoot someone to death - there will be no impeachment either, nor would he lose any supporters including GOP in congress. He got SC and once he replaces RGB with gorsuch 3.0, the power is solidified for decades. What he said today is no more extreme than toddlers in cages. Mueller said you can’t indite a sitting president - that’s all courts need to know to block investigations cause if you can’t indict then any investigation serves only political purpose. That’s legal to you.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
15. He's trying to bait the Dems and get them hooked on the prospect.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:34 PM
Jun 2019

Don't let them. Trump is the world's shittiest drug dealer. Don't take the bait!!!

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
16. That's my take. That he wants to be impeached now with the evidence the
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:37 PM
Jun 2019

democrats have now. Kind of implies there is more evidence Trump is hiding in one of his organizations or taxes or one of the things currently under investigation. Steady as she goes democrats. Steady as she goes.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
22. Oh he's such a petty bully.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jun 2019

He's trying to bait the dems into telling the principal. Go on, do it. Or I will beat you up after class. Do it.

Don't take the bait.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
26. Agree with you 100%.
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:11 AM
Jun 2019


Dumpster KNOWS the 1,000,000's of skunks in his woodpile!

GET ALL THE DIRTY LAUNDRY OUT ON THE LINE first.

don't take the cheap bait ....

sop

(10,192 posts)
20. To put it behind him as quickly as possible
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:54 PM
Jun 2019

It will all go down the memory hole by the end of the year.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
21. According to someone who spent time with Trump
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:04 AM
Jun 2019

writing his book, Trump would be devastated if he were impeached. Trump is not a strong person he needs constant praise and adoration, that's why he brought his family into the White House.

If Trump were impeached he would have a nervous breakdown.

We all know that Trump constantly lies, so why do some believe him when he says he wants to be impeached?

mahina

(17,663 posts)
28. We are in a four alarm fire. This is a crisis that makes
Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:46 AM
Jun 2019

Every other look manageable, with a backdrop of catastrophic climate change bearing down and a president who has stopped all work to address it.

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