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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump Refuses To Pay Police For Security At His Rallies
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The Center For Public Integrity investigated and found:
But when Lebanon City Hall sent Trumps campaign a $16,191 invoice for police and other public safety costs associated with his event, Trump didnt respond. Trumps campaign likewise ignored Lebanon officials follow-up reminders to cover the sum one rich enough to fund the entire police force for nearly two days in this modest city of 21,000, between Dayton and Cincinnati.
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At least nine other city governments from Mesa, Arizona, to Erie, Pennsylvania are still waiting for Trump to pay public safety-related invoices theyve sent his presidential campaign committee in connection with his political rallies, according to interviews with local officials and municipal records obtained by the Center for Public Integrity.
Some invoices are three years old. In all, city governments say Trumps campaign owes them at least $841,219.
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Five municipal public safety bills from Green Bay and Eau Claire, Wisconsin; Tucson, Arizona; Burlington, Vermont, and Spokane, Washington date back to 2016, before Trump became president.
The President Of The United States is bilking local governments out of nearly a million dollars. The problem is made worse by the fact that Trump tends to hold his rallies in places of political strength, and that often means local governments that are financially struggling.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/06/13/trump-pay-police.html
Kick it back to the local taxpayers. Most of his supporters probably fund by civil theft/forfeiture anyway.
They'll just have to steal some more during vehicle stops.
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mnhtnbb
(31,392 posts)or tell him to take his rally somewhere else.
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,816 posts)ooky
(8,923 posts)don't come?
machoneman
(4,007 posts)That'll keep him bottled up in the White House until the FBI comes for hid sorry azz!
ooky
(8,923 posts)I like it.
joshdawg
(2,648 posts)DBoon
(22,366 posts)These are pro-Trump rallies, after all.
The police are more to protect the public from the attendees, as opposed to the other way around.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)The Rump holds a rally on his own dime. A dozen die hard humpers show up. Nobody is there to report on it. Consequently, it's like it never happened. I fail to see the downside.
DBoon
(22,366 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)They should treat his as irrelevant because that's exactly what he is.
royable
(1,264 posts)is there any new to even fake?
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's a win-win all the way around.
RVN VET71
(2,691 posts)without the MAGAt-in-Chief?
SallyHemmings
(1,822 posts)He is notorious for stiffing contractors. He can't be shamed.
tanyev
(42,559 posts)Fool me once....
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)clears the bank.
Any day now.
spanone
(135,841 posts)worse 'human being' on earth.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)has treated the small business person. Why are so many of them keeping quiet? He actually drove many of them out of business because he refused to pay them. There are so many people he has fucked over and treated like shit and all along he has gotten away with it.
The man has a huge karmic debt to pay. My greatest hope is that the bill comes due in this lifetime and we all get to see him pay for it.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)For his campaign...
End of sentence.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)stubs his orange toe, gets a hair plug snatched away, he would sue for lack of protection. The scammer knows how to scam the system.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)Local authorities are not responsible for his security...that job belongs to the Secret Service! Local law enforcement mainly provide traffic and crowd control...if he falls from the stage, loses a strand of hair, that all falls within the purview of the Secret Service!
yaesu
(8,020 posts)its not about responsibility, its about con-ability.
malaise
(269,023 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Document the debt. Send a demand letter with a firm deadline. If you don't get a satisfactory response, file the complaint.
People and corporations and government entities do it all the time. I can't imagine why none of these places has gone after the Trump campaign.
malaise
(269,023 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)... for his security. Maybe they would, if we let them.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)its their Dear Leader. Typical conservatives always have their hands out.
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,431 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)Why would he owe to something he owns? I bet that is one of his views on paying the police.
47of74
(18,470 posts)And if he wont then refuse to assist. Let Federal agencies do all the work then.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Let them deal with it, they can have Barr, McConnell, Graham, Gaetz, Jordan, and all the buttlickers do guard duty.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)Delmette2.0
(4,165 posts)To recover the expense. Let their citizens know that 45 does not care about them or their city.
MontanaMama
(23,319 posts)Dumbasses keep coming back for more. Unbelievable. 🙄
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)And they like to pretend they are 'christians' - sick and sad.
Galileo126
(2,016 posts)Ohiogal
(32,002 posts)Make them pay for it.
Demobrat
(8,980 posts)Problem is, nobody would show up and the towns would still be stuck.
Initech
(100,079 posts)Find some way to cut into the profits he's making from Trump properties! Hey, the money has to come from somewhere!
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Theres always at least one town hall-style debate. What we need to do is to get the mayor of one of the towns Trump has screwed to ask this question:
Mr. President, Im Joe Smith, Mayor of Small Town USA. You held a campaign rally in my city on August 14, 2016. Your opponent Hillary Clinton held one in my city on September 9, 2016. That very night, Hillarys campaign manager John Podesta handed me a check for more than what it cost my city to host her rally. Weve sent your campaign numerous bills and havent received a cent. My question, and the question of (insert the name of every city Trump has done this to) is, when the hell are you going to pay your bill?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)that cheating sack of shit.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And demand he pay all their courts and legal fees. All new contracts with him should include fees will be much higher for him on all rally's before he performs his propaganda show , and penalties should be included and all signed before anything else , or he'll just continue doing this to cities. This is what con men and criminals do.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Clearly he should reimburse these towns for the extra security. That's just a decent thing to do.
But I'm wondering if their is a legal basis for these towns to sue. I sorta doubt it unless they quickly pass local or state laws requiring it. I don't think a town can prevent anyone from visiting, whether that's you or me. or the President.
It seems like they are placed in a very difficult position. Send a bill and hope they pay. Or provide no protection and then deal with the fallout that comes. No town or city wants a repeat of November 1963 in their town.
Frankly, I think he found a huge loophole and is dancing through it.
MattP
(3,304 posts)jalan48
(13,869 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)mountain grammy
(26,622 posts)jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)The Center for Public Integrity deserves the clicks, not Politics USA.
Here you go: https://publicintegrity.org/federal-politics/donald-trump-police-cities-bills-maga-rallies/
Paladin
(28,262 posts)ChazInAz
(2,569 posts)Never piss off your Praetorians.
Paladin
(28,262 posts)Again, I hope trump keeps his Praetorians angry and vengeful.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)B Stieg
(2,410 posts)This leopard ain't gonna change his spots!
Once a crook, always a crook...
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)In Lebanon. Trump also refused to eat at the Golden Lamb, the official Hotel of Presidents.
https://www.goldenlamb.com/hotel/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_uaxzujm4gIVmNlkCh3jhQEPEAAYASAAEgInrvD_BwE
Demon Dem
(43 posts)I'll betcha fifty bucks that's how he looks at it.
Liberal In Texas
(13,554 posts)Anybody who works for him with these stories out should count on working for free.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)before they agreed to hold the rally.
a moron and their undying support for a fucking crooked grifting asshole and their money will soon be parted
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Does a town or city really have the ability to bar a citizen from visiting and using facilities available? I don't know the answer to that ione.
btw, Lebanon is a very nice small town. It was the town that Neil Armstrong retired to.
House of Roberts
(5,174 posts)if they don't want to.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)It's gotta be dangerous legal ground for a government agency to deny a citizen a permit to gather because they just don't like the guy. Ask any town that has had to grudgeing grant a permit for a KKK or other hate group march. Virtually no one wants the KKK to assembly and speak, but yet it happens every year in numerous towns.
And yes - in the case of campaigning, the President is considered a citizen, just like all the others campaigning for the same job.
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)Of course, there is much money to be made printing campaign materials. Every place I ever worked, the owner knew when selling printing to any political candidate, get 100% of the money before the work starts. They all said they learned this the hard way a long time ago. The interesting thing is they all said you were more likely to get paid by a losing candidate than a winning one.
Meadowoak
(5,546 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Boos and demonstrations damage his weak psyche. So those cops are glad to protect his rallies and the mayors and councils welcome the bum. Let them figure out how to cover the shortfalls after he stiffs them.
Initech
(100,079 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)I mean ... he's never done anything like that before.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)DFW
(54,398 posts)These places so idolize him, they aren't looking for ways to collect on the unpaid bills, they are probably asking the Trump campaign for pointers on how to get away with it.
These are towns who could see their first-born rounded up, put before a firing squad for no reason, and cheer the shooters as long as they are wearing MAGA hats.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Younger Texas Ranger? Bonnie and Clyde didn't steal that much money.
Chakaconcarne
(2,453 posts)bdamomma
(63,868 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)He is in essence a dirty mafia type who was born rich because of Daddy, never had to work.
Just a dumb criminal boss who convinced enough white working class folks, mostly not college educated, to fall in with him. Now we are in quite the mess, drifting hard toward fascism.