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NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 06:56 AM Jun 2019

Pentagon NOT briefing Trump on Russian cyberattacks for fear he will betray America

or order the Pentagon to stop




Blockbuster story buried in this NYT report. Pentagon, intelligence officials fear they cannot trust Trump enough to brief him fully on new US cyber operation against Russia for fear he will "countermand it or discuss it with foreign officials" as he did before with Russians.






original NY Times story

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/us/politics/trump-cyber-russia-grid.html

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Pentagon NOT briefing Trump on Russian cyberattacks for fear he will betray America (Original Post) NewJeffCT Jun 2019 OP
Excellent tactic by the Pentagon get the red out Jun 2019 #1
My fear exactly. Why make this public? n/t monmouth4 Jun 2019 #3
Why not? He can't know what they leave out lunatica Jun 2019 #15
There's the danger that someone like Miller would give him the words to use to order them muriel_volestrangler Jun 2019 #19
I'm not convinced about this story lunatica Jun 2019 #27
Story refers to American cyberattacking, not Russian. Ghost Dog Jun 2019 #36
Thanks! n/t lunatica Jun 2019 #37
So What Do You Think Will Happen Now That This Story Is Out?..... nt global1 Jun 2019 #2
the details will be obtained by Trump and given to Russia NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #4
K&R, Looks like we have to look more into Red Don's treasonous acts uponit7771 Jun 2019 #5
If this is going on why don't they plead with senators to get rid of him? blueinredohio Jun 2019 #6
Good question NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #7
Fat chance. Scarsdale Jun 2019 #10
Ha ha! blueinredohio Jun 2019 #11
the Republicans care about holding on to their seat more JI7 Jun 2019 #14
Why would we know if they plead or not? lunatica Jun 2019 #28
So there must be a trap also. greymattermom Jun 2019 #8
Good point! Let's hope they did add a "tell" that would trip up Trump. FailureToCommunicate Jun 2019 #20
If they do maybe they will prove treason. lunatica Jun 2019 #29
Good call, though this is a sad day for our republic. n/t Laelth Jun 2019 #9
Those "sad days" began Scarsdale Jun 2019 #12
I fear they ARE today's GOP. Laelth Jun 2019 #13
The GOP soul its soul when they embraced racism and dirty tricks to win elections. olegramps Jun 2019 #32
"...Trump had not been briefed in any detail..." myohmy2 Jun 2019 #16
This leak is excellent strategy KentuckyWoman Jun 2019 #17
The Pentagon mistrusts the KGOP republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief Achilleaze Jun 2019 #18
amazing to note that NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #21
They pitched him a briefing about UFO sightings instead. Tanuki Jun 2019 #22
But, it would be something Donny would be interested in NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #23
Yes, and something he would have some familiarity with from looking st Tanuki Jun 2019 #24
Add it to the list watoos Jun 2019 #25
This story is bad news from several angles groundloop Jun 2019 #26
So the NYT tells Trump, when the Pentagon won't? This is getting out of control. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #30
And let's not forget THIS Russian ASSet! Eustace is Useful Jun 2019 #31
God, he's so hideously evil looking. smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #38
Hopefully he doesn't read that article or this postingq fescuerescue Jun 2019 #33
tic toc motherfucker. mopinko Jun 2019 #34
He's a National Security Risk coeur_de_lion Jun 2019 #35

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
1. Excellent tactic by the Pentagon
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 06:59 AM
Jun 2019

But now the treasonous piece of shit will know about when someone in his administration who can read tells him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. Why not? He can't know what they leave out
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:54 AM
Jun 2019

and he can’t make them tell him anything he has no knowledge of or desire to know. He can’t prove they aren’t telling him something.

Anyone who deals with classified information can sure as hell keep a secret.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,364 posts)
19. There's the danger that someone like Miller would give him the words to use to order them
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:14 AM
Jun 2019

to disclose the details. They may be able to keep a secret, but they're not the types to disobey direct orders.

It's not just "Trump v. underlings who try to limit him"; he gets help from some of them too, for one reason or another.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
27. I'm not convinced about this story
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:57 AM
Jun 2019

Why would they tell a newspaper? It doesn’t make sense. It might be a case of a deliberate fake report. But that also doesn’t make sense.

But, nevertheless, I hope it’s true. Maybe they take their oath to follow and protect the Constitution to heart.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
14. the Republicans care about holding on to their seat more
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:54 AM
Jun 2019

the republican party base supports trump and they need their support to stay in office.

this is why people like jeff flake and bob corker left. they would have lost in a primary for not supporting trump .

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. Why would we know if they plead or not?
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:00 AM
Jun 2019

It’s all classified. We’re not in the need to know group.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
8. So there must be a trap also.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:38 AM
Jun 2019

They will be able to trap Trump because of some small detail that they can trace. I hope.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,022 posts)
20. Good point! Let's hope they did add a "tell" that would trip up Trump.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:16 AM
Jun 2019

But of course, what could be done then? They, we, ALREADY know he is a traitor.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
29. If they do maybe they will prove treason.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:03 AM
Jun 2019

Because anyone who doubts that Trump has committed treason is a damn fool or a MAGAT. although that's redundant.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. Those "sad days" began
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:46 AM
Jun 2019

as soon as fat Donnie floated down his golden escalator with his trophy escort wife. It was all downhill from there. Maybe going DOWN the escalator was a metaphor for what the future would bring? Certainly it is beyond most peoples imagination. The gop will put Devin Nunes, or Lindsey Graham on to that immediately. They are well versed at shading lard ass Don the Con. Honor and integrity be damned. They have no place in today's gop.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
13. I fear they ARE today's GOP.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:50 AM
Jun 2019

The sooner we come to that realization, the better equipped we will be to fight them.

-Laelth

myohmy2

(3,176 posts)
16. "...Trump had not been briefed in any detail..."
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:55 AM
Jun 2019

"...about the steps to place 'implants' -- software code that can be used for surveillance or attack -- inside the Russian grid..."

"... the possibility he might countermand or discuss it with foreign officials..."

...well, that begs the question, "Why is trump still our president?"

...instead of being considered and registered as a foreign agent?

...incompetence abounds...

KentuckyWoman

(6,694 posts)
17. This leak is excellent strategy
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:59 AM
Jun 2019

1. Redacted will flap around over the thought the Pentagon isn't in his pocket.

2. Russia is on notice we probably already have whatever intelligence we need to do something.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
18. The Pentagon mistrusts the KGOP republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:13 AM
Jun 2019

But the republican party remains on its knees, groveling before their ignoble, deceitful, and illegitimate ex-casino hustler.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
21. amazing to note that
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:20 AM
Jun 2019

I'm in my early 50s and growing up, the Pentagon and military in general were thought of as fairly conservative organizations. To not inform Donny Dollhands of something like this is something that I'm sure they don't take lightly.

Tanuki

(14,921 posts)
22. They pitched him a briefing about UFO sightings instead.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:24 AM
Jun 2019
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/06/15/trump-says-he-doesnt-particularly-believe-ufo-reports-1365848

"President Donald Trump said he'd been briefed on Navy pilots reporting increased sightings of unidentified flying objects, adding that he doesn't particularly believe in UFOs."

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
23. But, it would be something Donny would be interested in
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:26 AM
Jun 2019

"Tell me about this Area 51 I saw on TV the other day... "

groundloop

(11,523 posts)
26. This story is bad news from several angles
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:47 AM
Jun 2019

Of course it's telling that the President* can't be trusted not to blab state secrets to our fiercest competitor on the international stage. This certainly is understandable given the history of tRump, his children, and Kushner to run their mouths in front of anyone who could potentially provide them with a source of personal profits.

HOWEVER, I for one don't want a military that's running around doing what the hell ever it chooses with no oversight. Look up the MKUltra project to see just how sickening things can get.

I also find it appalling that we're attacking the power grid of a foreign country, even Russia. This will only prompt them to up the ante and hit back at us in a bigger way. We don't need a cyber arms race, the money, time, and effort spent doing this should have been directed at safeguarding our elections.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. So the NYT tells Trump, when the Pentagon won't? This is getting out of control.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:07 AM
Jun 2019

There are some things that the news organizations just shouldn't print.

Now Trump knows, and can get detailed information and stop the work.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
33. Hopefully he doesn't read that article or this postingq
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:58 AM
Jun 2019

I appreciate what they are trying to do.

But it seems that they may have erred in leaking their efforts to the press.

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