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LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:34 AM Jun 2019

A terrible fallout of this administration.

Most of us probably deal with a wide variety of people, in both our professional and personal lives.

Friends of friends, the neighbor down the street that you just met, contractors, people that you have a casual conversation with in line at the grocery store, the guy at the auto repair shop, etc etc.

I have found myself in several hundred situations over the past few years where I am having a perfectly fine conversation with someone who I just met, and suddenly they drop a phrase or two into the conversation: tree huggers, snowflake, fucking liberals, Mexicans, Muslims, Sharia law, I'm not against LEGAL immigration, Trump's economy is great, Hey! whaddya think about Trump? Doing a great job isn't he? Blah blah blah...you know what I'm getting at here.

So after hearing things like that, I have a decision to make. Do I gently steer the conversation toward another subject? Do I laugh at them? Do I just stare at them? Do I try to reason with them? Do I lose my shit and make them sorry they opened their mouth?

I've done all of the above. The one thing I don't think I've ever done though is ignore their comment entirely. Lately, I've just started saying..."I don't discuss politics, and I especially don't discuss Trump. Change the subject please". I guess this gets my point across without losing my mind on someone.

My point is that I regret having to make this decision. I don't go around blurting out my liberal viewpoints to someone who I just met. I usually don't call Trump supporters fucking assholes and dumb shits, even though I generally think that is what they are. However, if someone starts riding me about Trump, I take glee in doing so. Regardless, this stuff creates a stressful situation.

I don't know why these people feel so emboldened to express their love for Trump, and I especially don't understand why they believe that all others share their view.

I always want to like someone that I meet. I always want to like someone who transacts with me. But if they go too far on the Trump shit, or even if they bring it up at all...I'm out. I'll do my best to avoid them in the future.

Have you ever looked at someone's social media page that you interact with, and find out that they are an insane Trump supporter? I have, and it's the worst. I have no idea why business people do that. Oh wait, yes I do. They're dumb as dirt and can't fathom that this behavior is costing them money.

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Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
1. I ran into someone I know this past weekend.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:40 AM
Jun 2019

He’s a local musician and owns a real estate agencies. He told me he doesn’t like the Republican Party but he loves Twitler. He believes democrats are communists or socialists. I asked him several times where he got his facts from but all he would say is his pockets. He believes the economy is all Twitler’s doing and Obama was the worst president ever. The absolutely hysterical part is his parents ran from Cuba when Castro took over. Seriously, you can’t fix stupid.

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
2. I definitely go out of my way to avoid shopping at
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:47 AM
Jun 2019

businesses that support Rump. It often makes for a longer drive but it saves my sanity here in Rump County.

sop

(10,197 posts)
3. A couple of years ago I would run into a lot of Trump fans, always willing to let others know
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:10 AM
Jun 2019

exactly how they felt without being asked. They seemed giddy, unable to keep their opinions to themselves, wanting everyone to know how pleased they were Trump was president.

These days I seldom run into anyone openly admitting having voted for Trump, only his most ignorant, diehard followers. I still see a few stained and worn MAGA truckers' caps here and there, or a bumper sticker on a PU, but nothing close to the way it was.

lark

(23,106 posts)
4. I try to find some point that maybe we can agree to.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:41 AM
Jun 2019

I have an awesome sister/friend who's been my best friend for the past 30 years and sadly, she's a repug while I am a liberal Democrat. We don't discuss politics often, especially politicians, but she does hate Rick Scott, so that's a start. She also believes climate change is real and in healthcare for all, so she's repug but smart and has a conscience. So we won't discuss Pompeo & drumpfs' trying to lie us into war with Iran, but we will discuss our disdain for any health plan Voldemort designs. We are both careful with each other since we don't want to hurt the others' feelings because we value each other so much. She's the one who will be taking care o me 2 8 hour shifts a week after my surgery and will be at the hospital while I'm in surgery, sitting with my husband and daughter.

I hate drumpf and the tension I feel with my best friend because of him. At one point I almost blew our friendship out of the water because of that, but luckily I came to my senses (my daughter had a stem talk with me). The love we have for each other transcends politics.

I am very thankful that all my immediate family - my husband, daughter, son, son-in-law & sister are all Democrats.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
5. Because they get reinforcements from info silos and media bubbles
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:46 AM
Jun 2019

Which reinforces their belief that "everyone" is working from the same facts.

They're in a cult, #Cult45, and as such are also brainwashed. You can't reason with them. I too curtly cut them off if they bring up anything Republican or Trumpish

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