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https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article231792543.htmlNC lawmaker says Lincoln unjustly invaded the South, a sovereign nation
RALEIGH
It started when N.C. legislator Larry Pittman compared Republican U.S. Sen. Thom Tillis to a Democrat.
It escalated after Tillis wife responded.
And it boiled over Thursday when Pittman compared President Abraham Lincoln to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler for the second time since 2017.
It was only a matter of numbers, Pittman wrote on Facebook, responding to another Facebook user. Lincoln was responsible for the unnecessary deaths of 800,000 Americans. Hitler was responsible for millions more. Both unjustly invaded and subjugated sovereign nations.
N.C. House leaders took a rare public stance against one of their own Thursday as they condemned Pittman, a Republican firebrand from Cabarrus County who has become known for making controversial remarks.
Pittman last year suggested that most school shooters are communist Democrats a comment he apologized for and earlier this year tried to outlaw same-sex marriage with a bill that called those couples immoral and part of the religion of secular humanism.
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RussellCattle
(1,535 posts)that he is sufficiently conservative for the right wing nut jobs of Cabarrus County, North Carolina. Speaking of lapel pins, what ever happened to the American flag pins that used to be required for all republicans? What is the small round pin that they all seem to use today?
CurtEastPoint
(18,663 posts)RussellCattle
(1,535 posts)ornotna
(10,807 posts)With the Flag of Israel. Here's a pic, definitely a RRWNJ.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)be debatable, but we really should do something about revisionist history in our own case.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)the "Lost Cause" narrative took over in the South in the wake of Reconstruction and never really went away.
RussellCattle
(1,535 posts)A comment about there being "good people on both sides" would have been a nice touch. I would have loved to have seen a leaked memo advising staff (Stephen Miller) to leave all Nazi paraphernalia at home.
malaise
(269,157 posts)these days
rampartc
(5,435 posts)this same guy would probably say the Nazis were liberals and that the liberal democrats were the slaveowners.
sometimes history is just a little more complicated than 21st century American politics.
DFW
(54,437 posts)Knowing his type, the only thing he meant to apologize about was the "communist" part.
Solly Mack
(90,785 posts)Aristus
(66,462 posts)After the North won the war and set the slaves free, the South said: "FINE! We just won't educate anybody then!"
CurtEastPoint
(18,663 posts)struggle4progress
(118,338 posts)blm
(113,091 posts)FOX news Republicans. Todays GOP, where Abraham Lincoln is actually despised. These are Putin Party loyalists now.
RussellCattle
(1,535 posts)....but now they want to attack Honest Abe directly?
dawg day
(7,947 posts)A sovereign nation? I grew up in NC, partly, and there were some who didn't believe the defeat really happened. For them, the war was still going on, and that big army fort, Ft. Bragg, that was an occupying force.
I'm sure this guy thinks he's "patriotic".
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The military should change the name to Fort Thomas, to honor a sourtherner during the civil war who was actually a patriot, fighting as a general for the Union.
struggle4progress
(118,338 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)struggle4progress
(118,338 posts)If you didn't go to school in the deep south, you may not know the officially story: "We wuz all just peacably mindin our own bidness and then Fort Sumter suddenly surprised us by surrendering without any provocation whatsoever!"
Me.
(35,454 posts)For everyone else...
In late 1860 and early 1861, South Carolina and other southern states withdrew from the Union. They formed a new nation called the Confederate States of America.
But Abraham Lincoln, the president of the United States, said the southern states did not have right to secede. And he said he would not accept the Souths demand to remove U.S. soldiers from South Carolina. The soldiers defended a base in Charleston Harbor called Fort Sumter.
So, Confederate leaders ordered an attack. Just before sunrise on April 12, 1861, a shell exploded above Fort Sumter. It was the first shot fired in the American Civil War.
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/first-shot-civil-war-fort-sumter/2441338.html
The Battle of Fort Sumter (April 1213, 1861) was the bombardment of Fort Sumter near Charleston, South Carolina by the Confederate States Army, and the return gunfire and subsequent surrender by the United States Army, that started the American Civil War. Following the declaration of secession by South Carolina on December 20, 1860, its authorities demanded that the U.S. Army abandon its facilities in Charleston Harbor. On December 26, Major Robert Anderson of the U.S. Army surreptitiously moved his small command from the vulnerable Fort Moultrie on Sullivan's Island to Fort Sumter, a substantial fortress built on an island controlling the entrance of Charleston Harbor. An attempt by U.S. President James Buchanan to reinforce and resupply Anderson using the unarmed merchant ship Star of the West failed when it was fired upon by shore batteries on January 9, 1861. South Carolina authorities then seized all Federal property in the Charleston area except for Fort Sumter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fort_Sumter
Jefferson Davis fired the shot that started the Civil War, not Abraham Lincoln.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/who...shot/.../AF1M5uHD_story.html
struggle4progress
(118,338 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)You're a republican, Pittman.
Thank God you republicans won that war back in the 1860s.