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I have a question for those of you who play poker... (Original Post) CTyankee Jun 2019 OP
Drawing an 'inside straight', aka a 'gut shot' means ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #1
So that means he was extremely lucky, right? Why the poker analogy, tho? CTyankee Jun 2019 #3
Because it's a common analogy that a good number of people in the population understand? mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #4
Yeap. Xolodno Jun 2019 #6
It's been awhile since I played poker, but... davekriss Jun 2019 #2
But Trump was playing with Russian marked cards. Sneederbunk Jun 2019 #5
I hate these poker analogies. hunter Jun 2019 #7
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Drawing an 'inside straight', aka a 'gut shot' means ...
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 02:56 PM
Jun 2019

You stayed to through the draw with like a (4, 5, 7, 8) and then caught a 6 on the draw.

Drawing an 'outside straight' (which is a much more common play) is if you stayed through the draw with (4,5,6,7) and caught a 3 or an 8. Obviously you have 2X better odds to catch an outside straight. Making an inside straight on the draw is considered extremely lucky.

That's the terminology when playing a game like 5 card draw. That's a game where you are dealt 5 cards, everyone checks, bets, calls, raises, or folds ... then everyone drops 0-4 cards, and gets that number of cards in return from the deck, creating a new hand. That process of trading in the cards is called 'the draw'. Then everyone checks/bets/calls/raises/folds again, then remaining hands are 'shown' to see who wins the pot.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. So that means he was extremely lucky, right? Why the poker analogy, tho?
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jun 2019

E.g., what does the "inside straight" in poker have to do with the election?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. Because it's a common analogy that a good number of people in the population understand?
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:07 PM
Jun 2019

Pretty much anytime you're 'trying to win' against others, you are, in a sense, engaged in a form of gambling, right?

Another interesting thing about that analogy is that if you draw an inside straight, esp. if you had to call a significant bet (in the pre-draw betting round) in order to actually SUCCEED in getting that 1 card you needed ... you will pretty much piss off the rest of the table. So there's an inherent 'annoying everyone else around you' component to 'drawing an inside straight'. It's such shitty odds that you really should fold (unless it costs you almost nothing to see your draw).

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
6. Yeap.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:41 PM
Jun 2019

If your on the very short stack and see little hope or chance of winning, may as well throw the hail mary. Otherwise the Blinds will eventually throw you out.

davekriss

(4,618 posts)
2. It's been awhile since I played poker, but...
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jun 2019

All else being equal, the odds of drawing an inside straight is about 1 in 11 chances. It’s not quite a long shot, but it’s generally not a good bet.

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