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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsICE agents are losing patience with Trump's chaotic immigration policy, NYer reports.
"I don't even know what were doing now," one officer said. "A lot of us see the photos of the kids at the border, and were wondering, 'What the hell is going on?'"
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Last Monday, when President Trump tweeted that his Administration would stage nationwide immigration raids the following week, with the goal of deporting millions of illegal aliens, agents at Immigration and Customs Enforcement were suddenly forced to scramble. The agency was not ready to carry out such a large operation. Preparations that would typically take field officers six to eight weeks were compressed into a few days, and, because of Trumps tweet, the officers would be entering communities that now knew they were coming. It was a dumb-shit political move that will only hurt the agents, John Amaya, a former deputy chief of staff at ICE, told me. On Saturday, hours before the operation was supposed to start in ten major cities across the country, the President changed course, delaying it for another two weeks.
On Sunday, I spoke to an ICE officer about the weeks events. Almost nobody was looking forward to this operation, the officer said. It was a boondoggle, a nightmare. Even on the eve of the operation, many of the most important details remained unresolved. This was a family op. So where are we going to put the families? Theres no room to detain them, so are we going to put them in hotels? the officer said. On Friday, an answer came down from ICE leadership: the families would be placed in hotels while ICE figured out what to do with them. That, in turn, raised other questions. So the families are in hotels, but whos going to watch them? the officer continued. What happens if the person we arrest has a U.S.-citizen child? What do we do with the children? Do we need to get booster seats for the vans? Should we get the kids toys to play with? Trumps tweet broadcasting the operation had also created a safety issue for the officers involved. No police agency goes out and says, Tomorrow, between four and eight, were going to be in these neighborhoods, the officer said.
On Sunday, I spoke to an ICE officer about the weeks events. Almost nobody was looking forward to this operation, the officer said. It was a boondoggle, a nightmare. Even on the eve of the operation, many of the most important details remained unresolved. This was a family op. So where are we going to put the families? Theres no room to detain them, so are we going to put them in hotels? the officer said. On Friday, an answer came down from ICE leadership: the families would be placed in hotels while ICE figured out what to do with them. That, in turn, raised other questions. So the families are in hotels, but whos going to watch them? the officer continued. What happens if the person we arrest has a U.S.-citizen child? What do we do with the children? Do we need to get booster seats for the vans? Should we get the kids toys to play with? Trumps tweet broadcasting the operation had also created a safety issue for the officers involved. No police agency goes out and says, Tomorrow, between four and eight, were going to be in these neighborhoods, the officer said.
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ICE agents are losing patience with Trump's chaotic immigration policy, NYer reports. (Original Post)
hlthe2b
Jun 2019
OP
I think ICE agents on the ground are hearing it from friends/family.. They are looking like Gestapo
hlthe2b
Jun 2019
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hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)1. More...
Late last week, factions within the Administration clashed over what to do. The acting secretary of D.H.S., Kevin McAleenan, urged caution, claiming that the operation was a distraction and a waste of manpower. Among other things, a $4.5 billion funding bill to supply further humanitarian aid at the border has been held up because Democrats worried that the Administration would use the money for enforcement operations. McAleenan had been meeting with members of both parties on the Hill, and there appeared to be signs of progress, before the President announced the ICE crackdown. According to an Administration official, McAleenan argued that the operation would also threaten a string of recent gains made by the President. The Trump Administration had just secured a deal with the Mexican government to increase enforcement at the Guatemalan border, and it expanded a massive new program called Remain in Mexico, which has forced some ten thousand asylum seekers to wait indefinitely in northern Mexico. Momentum was moving in the right direction, the official said.
On the other side of the argument were Stephen Miller, at the White House, and Mark Morgan, at ICE. In the days before and after Trumps Twitter announcement, Morgan spoke regularly with the President, who was circumventing McAleenan, Morgans boss. In meetings with staff, Morgan boasted that he had a direct line to the President, according to the ICE officer, who told me it was highly unusual for there to be such direct contact between the agency head and the White House. It should be going to the Secretary, which I find hilarious, actually, because Morgan was already fired once by this Administration, the officer said.
On the other side of the argument were Stephen Miller, at the White House, and Mark Morgan, at ICE. In the days before and after Trumps Twitter announcement, Morgan spoke regularly with the President, who was circumventing McAleenan, Morgans boss. In meetings with staff, Morgan boasted that he had a direct line to the President, according to the ICE officer, who told me it was highly unusual for there to be such direct contact between the agency head and the White House. It should be going to the Secretary, which I find hilarious, actually, because Morgan was already fired once by this Administration, the officer said.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)3. I think ICE agents on the ground are hearing it from friends/family.. They are looking like Gestapo
and at least SOME of them don't like it. If critical mass develops...
spanone
(135,873 posts)2. K&R...
tanyev
(42,610 posts)4. Elect a clown, expect a circus.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)5. If you are in Texas, what are you hearing from random people you encounter on this?
tanyev
(42,610 posts)6. I really don't interact much with people I don't know.
I'm fortunate to have several co-workers that are 100% anti-Trump. The co-workers whose politics I don't know never talk politics at the office. I've been perusing the Facebook pages of a few friends that can be counted on for occasional right wing memes and they have been completely silent on this issue.
Tech
(1,772 posts)7. Maybe it is time to get a new job. You know, great economy and all.