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Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:21 AM Jun 2019

Jeffrey Epstein plea deal must stand, prosecutors tell sex abuse victims

Jeffrey Epstein plea deal must stand, prosecutors
tells sex abuse victims





Suspected sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein was handed another break by the Department of Justice on Monday when federal prosecutors rejected his victims’ efforts to throw out his plea deal and prosecute him for abusing dozens of underage girls.

In the 35-page motion, filed in federal court in the Northern District of Georgia, federal prosecutors said that there is no legal basis to invalidate Epstein’s non-prosecution agreement — and they warned the federal judge in the case against doing the same.

U.S. Attorney Byung “B.J.” Pak said that because Congress did not outline specific penalties in the Crime Victims’ Rights Act when it was created by Congress, Epstein’s victims have no right to demand anything from the government — not even an apology. A federal judge ruled earlier this year that the plea deal violated that legislation.


In the filing, federal prosecutors did concede that the U.S. Attorney’s Office in South Florida failed to treat Epstein’s victims — most of whom where 13 to 16 years old when they were victimized — fairly, but they said that the law gives prosecutors discretion in deciding how to dispose of a case. Victims have a right to confer with prosecutors, but no rights beyond that, Pak said


Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article231916968.html#storylink=cpy


YEAH I DON’T THINK SO

WHO ARE THESE FUCKIN PEOPLE
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Jeffrey Epstein plea deal must stand, prosecutors tell sex abuse victims (Original Post) Leghorn21 Jun 2019 OP
Fetuses count, children do not csziggy Jun 2019 #1
My argument exactly...nt 2naSalit Jun 2019 #4
Figures atreides1 Jun 2019 #2
+1 2naSalit Jun 2019 #7
Warned The Federal Judge? Me. Jun 2019 #3
Can they file a civil suit? Control-Z Jun 2019 #5
The DOJ is fighting so hard ScratchCat Jun 2019 #6
Yup... 2naSalit Jun 2019 #8
Another instance of "it wasn't specifically mentioned" gratuitous Jun 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #10
For one, Border Patrol isn't letting anyone in gratuitous Jun 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #13
These crimes happened in Florida, the deal was done in Florida FakeNoose Jun 2019 #11
Looks like if a new person doesn't show up this bastard gets away uponit7771 Jun 2019 #14

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
1. Fetuses count, children do not
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jun 2019

This has to be true seeing how child abuse victims and refugee children are treated in this country.

Maybe that is why the Republicans hate abortion - fewer children to be abused.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
2. Figures
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jun 2019

Pak got his orders from Washington...and he followed them!

By the way the US Attorney doesn't get to decide what Congress may or may not have intended, that determination is made by the courts...this needs to go all the way to the SCOTUS before this case is closed!!!

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
6. The DOJ is fighting so hard
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:31 AM
Jun 2019

Because Epstein is going to throw other people under the bus if his plea deal is scrapped. And by "other people" I mean people who are telling the DOJ to fight this.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Another instance of "it wasn't specifically mentioned"
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jun 2019

The dangers of the "everyone knows what we mean" legislation. Right now our government is arguing that because personal hygiene items and sleeping accommodations aren't specifically enumerated in the Flores consent decree, the government is under no current obligation to provide such in the concentration camps. Because the Crime Victims' Rights Act didn't specifically contemplate a corrupt prosecuting attorney who would fashion some bullshit argument about not notifying those victims that he was going to go easy on the perpetrator, it's totally all right. I'll bet there's something in Mr. Pak's argument implies that 13- to 16-year-olds don't have a sufficiently sophisticated understanding of criminal law to confer knowledgeably with prosecutors. This from the same government attorneys who argue that two-year-olds can represent themselves in immigration hearings.

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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. For one, Border Patrol isn't letting anyone in
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:37 PM
Jun 2019

But the Texas Tribune has put together a partial list of organizations who are trying to do something:

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/18/heres-list-organizations-are-mobilizing-help-separated-immigrant-child/

As always, when contemplating a contribution to an organization you haven't heard of before, check them out on Charity Navigator, but there are several groups here that I've heard of and that do good work where our government is doing evil work.

Response to gratuitous (Reply #12)

FakeNoose

(32,745 posts)
11. These crimes happened in Florida, the deal was done in Florida
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:15 PM
Jun 2019

... so why is a court in Georgia having anything to say about this? Are the federal prosecutors in GA even more corrupt than those in south FL? I hope not, but that's how this looks. Maybe Epstein's lawyers are shopping around for the most corrupt DOJ people they can find.

This really stinks!

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