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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 09:42 AM Jun 2019

Jake Tapper Pushes AOC on Concentration Camp Comments: Is That What You Called Them When Obama...


Jake Tapper Pushes AOC on Concentration Camp Comments: Is That What You Called Them When Obama Was President?

By Caleb HoweJun 27th, 2019, 6:21 pm

When Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez referred to ICE detention facilities as “concentration camps” recently, she caused a huge and continuing controversy in which she has tripled and quadrupled down despite negative reactions from the right and even some on the left.

On Twitter Wednesday night, the freshman Rep. tweeted again about it, saying that she is calling them “what they are.” CNN’s Jake Tapper pressed AOC on that topic in an interview on Thursday’s The Lead.

“Two questions here,” said Tapper after reading the Tweet. “One, you’re taking credit for calling these camps, detention centers — you’re taking credit for those developments by using the term ‘Concentration camp.’ And two, what do you say to Americans, especially survivors of the Holocaust or individuals who are related to survivors of the Holocaust who say, look, academically you’re right, the term concentration camp did not necessarily mean death camp, but colloquially, when most people hear it, they think ‘death camp,’ they think, Holocaust. And ‘you’re undermining your argument and you’re hurting us. You’re hurting our feelings, hurting our emotions, hurting our memories.'”

“What do you say to those Holocaust survivors?” he asked.

“Absolutely,” said Ocasio-Cortez for some reason. “Well, you know, I have many in my district and our Jewish community has kind of rallied around this issue, because when we talk about concentration camps, if we do not also talk about Japanese internment, if we don’t talk about the Boer war, if we don’t talk about the many times this has happened in the history of humanity, then we also erase the suffering of those people.”

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Jake Tapper Pushes AOC on Concentration Camp Comments: Is That What You Called Them When Obama... (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2019 OP
Toothpaste, soap and good meals . . . Iliyah Jun 2019 #1
Tapper has been a RW tool Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #15
She's absolutely right. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #2
the question might make sense if AOC is an Obama apologist KayF Jun 2019 #3
Is jake tapper going to take the same aggressive approach matt819 Jun 2019 #4
Bingo! Unlikely. With AOC they ask repeatedly, as if WORD CHOICE was shameful, lostnfound Jun 2019 #11
Spoiler alert: No gratuitous Jun 2019 #19
The representative from the 24th district should add the Deir-ez Zor camps lapucelle Jun 2019 #5
CNN and Tapper have been pissin' me off lately HAB911 Jun 2019 #6
They were empty facilities then C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #7
obama didn't pointedly make them camps of punishment to deter immigrants from coming to america. unblock Jun 2019 #8
good post bdamomma Jun 2019 #9
+1, Trumps camps are text book concentration camps by definition because of the context !! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #14
Tapper and other MSM members are sweating over the idea of losing bullwinkle428 Jun 2019 #10
+1. They're all corporate whores dalton99a Jun 2019 #12
STUPID FALSE EQUIVALENCY !! They were NOT ran for punitive measures under Obama. WTF Tapper?! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #13
So sick of the media's false equivalency bullshit. n/t Downtown Hound Jun 2019 #16
Hey Jake, If you don't like "Concentration Camp" use, help end this form of detainment. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #17
Caleb Howe, the author of the piece Leith Jun 2019 #18
Tapper is a blowhard think4yourself Jun 2019 #20
I'd like to know about the border... stillcool Jun 2019 #21

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Toothpaste, soap and good meals . . .
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 09:45 AM
Jun 2019

They also were able to play games.

Blaming Obama is the Republican talking point, and Tapper works for corporate media.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
4. Is jake tapper going to take the same aggressive approach
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 09:48 AM
Jun 2019

With republicans who have failed to take any action?

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
11. Bingo! Unlikely. With AOC they ask repeatedly, as if WORD CHOICE was shameful,
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jun 2019

But with GOP they allow weaseling out of responsibility for actual policies or they ask the question as “Democrats would say that...” thereby turning it into mere partisan politics.

They don’t ask a Republican “what are YOU going to do about this cruel policy?” Or ask “the world’ sees this as America’s shame, how will you stop Trump from dragging the country down to the level of dictators and human rights abusers?”

You cross a border and get arrested and your kids taken from you? That’s iron Curtain stuff.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Spoiler alert: No
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jun 2019

I'm not too concerned with Rep. Ocasio-Cortez; she is a principled person who speaks very clearly on what she thinks and believes. Tapper's questions aren't going to faze her in the least. She can handle herself.

But when is Tapper going to bore in on Trump and his administration folks, demanding they explain why they're running concentration camps? Oh, he can call them something else if he's so concerned about the feelings of the remaining Holocaust survivors (he isn't), but when is he going to use his platform to buttonhole the authors of this atrocity?

lapucelle

(18,305 posts)
5. The representative from the 24th district should add the Deir-ez Zor camps
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 09:57 AM
Jun 2019

to her informative lectures on the history of humanity the next time she appears on TYT.

unblock

(52,307 posts)
8. obama didn't pointedly make them camps of punishment to deter immigrants from coming to america.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:05 AM
Jun 2019

that's the key distinction. my mother is a holocaust survivor, and relatives were killed by nazis, but i'm not dishonoring any of that by acknowledging that the holocaust was not a singular, unique moment in world history.

genocides happen all over the world and throughout history, and we need to be vigilant.

we dishonor victims of the holocaust when we allow distinctions between various paths to genocide to blind us to the fact that we're on a path to genocide.

no two paths to genocide are every the same. donald the rapist is not going to sport a square mustache or an armband. but such distinctions don't matter to the broader picture. he consistently dehumanizes non-whites, particularly immigrants on the southern border (but never immigrants on the northern border or who fly in; gee, i wonder why). he is deliberately creating conditions that are cruel and unhealthy and possibly lethal in order to punish them for coming to america and to deter others from doing the same.

just because germany attacked people who were already there legitimately instead, or eventually turned concentration camps into death camps doesn't really matter.

the point is that donald the rapist is putting us on a path to genocide and the concentration camps he is using is a horrific part of that.


most important, we should be trying to improve the situation for these immigrants rather than having a stupid debate over what term to call their situation.


bdamomma

(63,918 posts)
9. good post
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jun 2019
"most important, we should be trying to improve the situation for these immigrants rather than having a stupid debate over what term to call their situation".

Amen to that.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
10. Tapper and other MSM members are sweating over the idea of losing
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:22 AM
Jun 2019

that SWEET, SWEET RATINGS GOLD that might go away if their precious Chump falls in 2020.

Leith

(7,813 posts)
18. Caleb Howe, the author of the piece
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 11:42 AM
Jun 2019

is a blatant and unrepentant reichwing writer and puts the worst possible spin in every article. For example, the link on the word some in "some on the left" is something Bill Maher said. I like listening to Maher and I agree with much of what he says, but he is hardly an official spokesman for the left.

As for Tapper, Senator Harris was absolutely right last night when she asked if one of her questions was ever directed at Trump (we all know it was not). Media asks different questions depending on the interviewee's political party and they let rethugs skate by with softballs so soft it would be better to call them Nerfs.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
21. I'd like to know about the border...
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:08 PM
Jun 2019

before Trump. It's obviously very different since Trump took office. Maybe Jake Tapper can explain that?

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