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applegrove

(118,683 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:49 AM Jul 2019

Trump Underwater In Key Battleground States

Trump Underwater In Key Battleground States

July 3, 2019 at 11:17 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 84 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/07/03/trump-underwater-in-key-battleground-states/

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A new series of Morning Consult polls finds President Trump remains underwater in key battleground states:

New Hampshire: 37% approval, 60% disapproval (-23 net approval)
Michigan: 40% approval, 55% disapproval (-15)
Wisconsin: 42% approval, 56% disapproval (-14)
Iowa: 42% approval, 55% disapproval (-13)
Pennsylvania 44% approval, 53% disapproval (-9)
Arizona: 45% approval, 52% disapproval (-7)
Ohio: 45% approval, 51% disapproval (-6)
North Carolina: 47% approval, 50% disapproval (-3)
Florida: 47% approval, 50% disapproval (-3)
Indiana: 49% approval, 48% disapproval (+1)

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Trump Underwater In Key Battleground States (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2019 OP
These are the more important polls NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #1
Looks like time for Trump to place that call to Putin. Although Putin probably already knows politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2019 #19
Come on Florida! We can do it! Phoenix61 Jul 2019 #2
They may be any but so long as Florida's elections are not secure delisen Jul 2019 #8
Obama won here twice. GulfCoast66 Jul 2019 #9
Your election systems in Florida are not secure; were hacked in 2016 delisen Jul 2019 #14
Beware of the Republicans, ie Russians . . Iliyah Jul 2019 #3
Yes. In the end this is the key factor. CrispyQ Jul 2019 #6
The pundits can squawk all they want about the great economy, CrispyQ Jul 2019 #4
-6 in Ohio? TruckFump Jul 2019 #5
can't depend on a fair and free election, though. Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #7
He's toast Amishman Jul 2019 #10
If those are hard numbers, Wellstone ruled Jul 2019 #11
The last 4 are recoverable for him bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #12
But who controls the voting machines and the counting? LiberalArkie Jul 2019 #13
hope the bdamomma Jul 2019 #15
Fool me once extvbroadcaster Jul 2019 #16
+1 in Indiana is pretty sad DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #17
Wait until the billions in foreign money pours in with the media lies 24/7 for months. onecaliberal Jul 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Pepsidog Jul 2019 #20
Note of caution in Wisconsin. This once very progressive state was over run with the Walker/Koch.... usaf-vet Jul 2019 #21

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
1. These are the more important polls
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jul 2019

than the national polls that are skewed by super-red states that love Trump and blue states that do not.

Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa are not looking good for Donny Dollhands, and neither is Pennsylvania.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
19. Looks like time for Trump to place that call to Putin. Although Putin probably already knows
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:46 PM
Jul 2019

the results of those Polls. I'm sure Trump has him on speed dial. And whereas Trump always lies about his number, I'm sure Putin knows the exact numbers. After all, he's the one pulling the strings.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
2. Come on Florida! We can do it!
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jul 2019

DeSantis basically invalidating Amendment 4, voting rights restoration act, has pissed off a lot of people.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
8. They may be any but so long as Florida's elections are not secure
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jul 2019

their anger may not matter in 2020.

Mueller gave a clear warning about Russia in his report and the FBI is continuing its investigation into Russian hacking and each time information comes out it points to more states affected, more /russian success, and likelihood of extensive hiking in 2020.

Even Jimmy Carter-no fan of H Clinton-recently stated that Trump did to win the 2016 election. (presumably he still gets security briefings.

Putin and Trump just shared a laugh fest over the Russian interference. Many democrats want to believe that if they just nominate the "right" candidate and get 100,000 more votes in 3 states by appealing to either Trump voters or Democrats who decided to not vote or voted for s third party candidate just because they weren't sufficiently excited or whatever, we automatically win.

This is a delusion worthy of cargo cult status built on a combination of ignorance and ideology.

Right now Putin and Republicans are the main drivers of who wins in 2020.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
14. Your election systems in Florida are not secure; were hacked in 2016
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jul 2019

Gillum and Graham lost by minuscule amounts. When we lose a Democratic senator , our whole country loses-not just Florida.

Florida was recently informed by FBI that 2 election systems were hacked into by Russian intelligence in 2016- We don't know which two , because that information in currently classified

Getting into those two Florida systems then allowed Russia to enter systems in counties in other states that used the same systems. Florid was a weak link that used damage to our elections even in far away states.

We do know that there was attempted hacking in 50 states and 39 had some degree of being compromised.

In addition to Mueller sounding the alarm about the Russian role in his report, Jimmy Carter has now said that Trump did not win in 2016.

Russia, as far as we know was not a player in 2008 or 2012 when Obama won the state.

So as long as many Democrats ignore the Russian hacking and just claim that all is needed is the "right" candidate, we are at grave risk.

2020 is an apportionment year, every indication is that Russia will be active.

If you have any evidence that all we need is the right candidate please share it because we can't afford to be waste our energy looking for a "right" candidate when the evidence we do have points to a much different strategy being essential.

https://thinkprogress.org/florida-county-trump-won-in-2016-was-among-two-hacked-by-russia-reports-say-13ed9344ae62/

https://news.wjct.org/post/even-without-russian-hacking-floridas-voting-system-not-secure-says-election-expert

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
4. The pundits can squawk all they want about the great economy,
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jul 2019

but most Americans aren't feeling it. I also think a lot of Americans are sick of the drama coming out of the White House. It's a 24x7 me-fest & people are sick of him. His numbers might actually go up if he just shut the fuck up.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
7. can't depend on a fair and free election, though.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 12:15 PM
Jul 2019

We KNOW Russia is engaged in interference along with Trump campaign. The same actors are still on it. Brad Parscale.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
10. He's toast
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jul 2019

Time to load up on PredictIt, make a killing, and buy my family some really nice Christmas presents next year

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. If those are hard numbers,
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jul 2019

the Rethugs are in a real world of hurt. As the Congressional Hearings ramp up in September and the probable Government shut down looming,these numbers on the minus side will only increase by the news cycles.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
12. The last 4 are recoverable for him
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jul 2019

maybe the last 6

So I'm still seeing this as Electoral College competitive and never enough until he's gone from office for good!

extvbroadcaster

(343 posts)
16. Fool me once
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jul 2019

I can't believe anybody would fall for that same con twice. First time around, he had no political record. He was a lousy businessman, but you would not know that unless you really looked. Many people bought the "Apprentice" fantasy. Now it is all in the open, he is a lying POS. Who would vote for him again? Enough for him to win? I don't think so but it did happen once.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
21. Note of caution in Wisconsin. This once very progressive state was over run with the Walker/Koch....
Thu Jul 4, 2019, 12:00 AM
Jul 2019

... influence, money, and gerrymandering. They have stacked the court systems starting with the WI Supreme Court. They have been known to miraculously discover late election ballots that have flip elections by just enough to steal the seat.

I was not surprised to see that Wisconsin was one of the states the Russians chose to target for swinging the vote to Trump.
The machinery to implement the altered results was already in place and tested in prior state elections.

I hope the polling data is correct and Trump stays underwater.... BUT until the votes are counted and certified I will be holding my breath.

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