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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts) Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:11 PM Jul 2019

Trump asks Army, Navy, Air Force & Marines chiefs to stand next to him during his campaign speech.

THE NATIONAL INTEREST JULY 2, 2019
Trump Is Packing the July 4 Fireworks Because He’s Afraid of Getting Booed
By Jonathan Chait

The Fourth of July celebration exposes Trump to the sort of crowd from which he has been traditionally insulated. The event is held in Washington, which (along with its surrounding suburbs) is heavily Democratic. It is also drawing protesters who will fly the famous Baby Trump blimp. Trump is also alienating nonpolitical attendees who might resent him turning a hallowed ritual that is a traditional venue for unity and a respite from politics into another divisive spectacle.

Trump’s efforts to control the rally should be seen in the context of his fear that the crowd will boo him. He is advertising the event on his Twitter feed, cordoning off the immediate area around his speech for ticket holders, and giving tickets away to Republican donors. Trump has “requested that the chiefs for the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines stand next to him.”

Get it? The service chiefs have to stand next to Trump as human patriotism bodyguards.

Trump has spent his presidency representing his supporters, without even bothering with the pretense of representing the majority that voted against him. He is attempting to conscript patriotic rituals into this effort. He deserves the reception he fears: loud, merciless boos.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/trump-july-4th-fireworks-washington-mall-afraid-booed.html

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Trump asks Army, Navy, Air Force & Marines chiefs to stand next to him during his campaign speech. (Original Post) Miles Archer Jul 2019 OP

Air horns. Lots of air horns. louis-t Jul 2019 #1

Vuvuzelas. Cheaper and even more unpleasant. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #2

I remember those. From the soccer matches, right? louis-t Jul 2019 #3

That is a fantastic idea. CentralMass Jul 2019 #7

Nothing says "Independence " like military overlords GusBob Jul 2019 #4

Something about that seems very familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it... toddwv Jul 2019 #5

Go back 80 years for a better representation. captain queeg Jul 2019 #9

doesn't tRump bdamomma Jul 2019 #11

Have the generals stand around him while he touches himself figuratively... Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #6

More and more this seems like a golden opportunity for ant-Trumpers. Sneederbunk Jul 2019 #8

This isn't something to joke about, watoos Jul 2019 #10

NO Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #16

you keep seeing even this sacred red line frayed Cosmocat Jul 2019 #17

Yes. Yes it something to joke about. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #21

When will he start wearing a uniform superpatriotman Jul 2019 #12

I think he's already working on it FakeNoose Jul 2019 #20

Where's the Coast Guard? cwydro Jul 2019 #13

Coast Guard is part of Homeland Security Mach1miles Jul 2019 #15

I am sure the chiefs of the Armed Forces and their families would rather do smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #14

I'll give 1000 bucks to the 1st one kacekwl Jul 2019 #18

I'll wager they will be issued double plus big hats for the occasion. n/t theophilus Jul 2019 #19

Trump doesn't need them to look like his procon Jul 2019 #22

According to someone on MSNBC this morning; Trump's fear is not that he will be booed; politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2019 #23

louis-t

(23,295 posts)

1. Air horns. Lots of air horns.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:13 PM

Jul 2019

Every time the dumbass speaks. Air horns. That is all.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)

2. Vuvuzelas. Cheaper and even more unpleasant.

Reply to louis-t (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:14 PM

Jul 2019

louis-t

(23,295 posts)

3. I remember those. From the soccer matches, right?

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:15 PM

Jul 2019

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)

7. That is a fantastic idea.

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:21 PM

Jul 2019

GusBob

(7,286 posts)

4. Nothing says "Independence " like military overlords

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:15 PM

Jul 2019

toddwv

(2,830 posts)

5. Something about that seems very familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it...

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:17 PM

Jul 2019

captain queeg

(10,207 posts)

9. Go back 80 years for a better representation.

Reply to toddwv (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:24 PM

Jul 2019

And besides where is Ivanka going to stand?

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)

11. doesn't tRump

Reply to toddwv (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:29 PM

Jul 2019

always need to seem have people around him that is because he is such a COWARD. Fucking ass jerk I have a message for him, move to North Korea, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia or Russia if you want to live in a dictatorship you prick.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)

6. Have the generals stand around him while he touches himself figuratively...

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:17 PM

Jul 2019

as if they are backing him for re-election and have swore fealty to him......nothing totalitarian about that...(smh).

Sneederbunk

(14,291 posts)

8. More and more this seems like a golden opportunity for ant-Trumpers.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:22 PM

Jul 2019

watoos

(7,142 posts)

10. This isn't something to joke about,

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:26 PM

Jul 2019

When Trump loses the election and declares the election was rigged and declares martial law will the military stand with him? That is what he wants.

Everyman Jackal

(271 posts)

16. NO

Reply to watoos (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:27 PM

Jul 2019

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)

17. you keep seeing even this sacred red line frayed

Reply to Everyman Jackal (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:31 PM

Jul 2019

Leadership is a good bet to stay in line, but you just never know, all it takes is one wing nut.

But, past that, the constant pushing, pushing, pushing, he is definitely trying to stir whatever elements will come to his side when the time comes - bit it the military, law enforcement or citizens.

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

21. Yes. Yes it something to joke about.

Reply to watoos (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 03:12 PM

Jul 2019

Jokes do not deny concern.

Reading tea leaves and chicken entrails followed with prophetic pronouncements of what the future holds is also something to joke about.

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)

12. When will he start wearing a uniform

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:32 PM

Jul 2019

With medals, ribbons and shiny buttons?

Since he's a wannabe tinpot dictator, I'd prefer it to that poorly-fitting blue garbage suit and long red Chinese-made tie he wears now.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)

20. I think he's already working on it

Reply to superpatriotman (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 03:08 PM

Jul 2019

cwydro

(51,308 posts)

13. Where's the Coast Guard?

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:35 PM

Jul 2019

Not invited?

Mach1miles

(95 posts)

15. Coast Guard is part of Homeland Security

Reply to cwydro (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:54 PM

Jul 2019

Oh... this is funny
The Coast Guard as established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times. The Coast Guard shall be a service in the Department of Homeland Security, except when operating as a service in the Navy.
Wikipedia › wiki › United_States_C...

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)

14. I am sure the chiefs of the Armed Forces and their families would rather do

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 01:49 PM

Jul 2019

nothing else to celebrate their 4th of July holiday.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)

18. I'll give 1000 bucks to the 1st one

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:49 PM

Jul 2019

to tape a kick me sign to his back.

theophilus

(3,750 posts)

19. I'll wager they will be issued double plus big hats for the occasion. n/t

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:58 PM

Jul 2019

procon

(15,805 posts)

22. Trump doesn't need them to look like his

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 03:28 PM

Jul 2019

pet bodyguards. He wants the camera to see them all standing with him as if they are aligned with Trump and tacitly endorsing him. Trump is a master showman and he knows what the impact of that optic will be in the eyes of viewer.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)

23. According to someone on MSNBC this morning; Trump's fear is not that he will be booed;

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2019, 03:36 PM

Jul 2019

but that no one will show up. He's afraid his audience numbers will be like the comparison's between his and Obama's inauguration crowds. I'm doing my damndest to make that fear a reality. I'm praying for a big rainstorm in the DC area with thunder and lightning lasting all day tomorrow.

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