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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:44 PM Jul 2019

Trump declares his own government's statements about census defeat to be 'FAKE!'

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1869225

Daily Kos Staff

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Another morning, another tweeted declaration by Donald Trump that everyone else in his own administration is a liar.

Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump

The News Reports about the Department of Commerce dropping its quest to put the Citizenship Question on the Census is incorrect or, to state it differently, FAKE! We are absolutely moving forward, as we must, because of the importance of the answer to this question.

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This is at direct odds with at least two separate confirmations by government officials that the administration has abandoned its "quest" to add a question asking the citizenship status of each respondent. Department of Justice attorney Kate Bailey confirmed that the 2020 census forms would be printed without the question; Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross issued a statement saying that, while he "strongly" disagrees with the Supreme Court ruling rejecting the administration's flimsy justifications for the adding it, "The Census Bureau has started the process of printing the decennial questionnaires without the question."

As usual, then, Donald Trump either (1) does not actually know what his own government is doing or (2) is lying to the public on purpose.



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Trump declares his own government's statements about census defeat to be 'FAKE!' (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2019 OP
I have 2 questions. If someone says they are not a citizen can the government applegrove Jul 2019 #1
It's a moot point now. PSPS Jul 2019 #2
No and no. former9thward Jul 2019 #3
Good. That's a relief. applegrove Jul 2019 #4
But the point of the question is to deter non-citizens from completing the census Captain Zero Jul 2019 #8
Plus the count of citizens would be 11 million less, no? Fewer resources for applegrove Jul 2019 #9
LOL - laws! NutmegYankee Jul 2019 #5
If you really believe that then why do anything? former9thward Jul 2019 #6
Honor - the same reason the last Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto rebelled. NutmegYankee Jul 2019 #7

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
1. I have 2 questions. If someone says they are not a citizen can the government
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jul 2019

use that info to hunt them down? If they lie and say they are citizens is that a crime?

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
3. No and no.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jul 2019

The Census Bureau is prohibited by law from releasing information on individuals to anyone until 70 years have passed.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
8. But the point of the question is to deter non-citizens from completing the census
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jul 2019

and fixing the count so those people are not counted.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
9. Plus the count of citizens would be 11 million less, no? Fewer resources for
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jul 2019

election day, like voting machines, that are already lacking in poorer areas where illegal immigrants live.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
7. Honor - the same reason the last Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto rebelled.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jul 2019

I refuse to let our Republic die without a fight.

And hope - that maybe we can give that evil SOB a heart attack.

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