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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump declares his own government's statements about census defeat to be 'FAKE!'
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1869225Daily Kos Staff
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Another morning, another tweeted declaration by Donald Trump that everyone else in his own administration is a liar.
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
The News Reports about the Department of Commerce dropping its quest to put the Citizenship Question on the Census is incorrect or, to state it differently, FAKE! We are absolutely moving forward, as we must, because of the importance of the answer to this question.
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This is at direct odds with at least two separate confirmations by government officials that the administration has abandoned its "quest" to add a question asking the citizenship status of each respondent. Department of Justice attorney Kate Bailey confirmed that the 2020 census forms would be printed without the question; Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross issued a statement saying that, while he "strongly" disagrees with the Supreme Court ruling rejecting the administration's flimsy justifications for the adding it, "The Census Bureau has started the process of printing the decennial questionnaires without the question."
As usual, then, Donald Trump either (1) does not actually know what his own government is doing or (2) is lying to the public on purpose.
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Trump declares his own government's statements about census defeat to be 'FAKE!' (Original Post)
applegrove
Jul 2019
OP
I have 2 questions. If someone says they are not a citizen can the government
applegrove
Jul 2019
#1
But the point of the question is to deter non-citizens from completing the census
Captain Zero
Jul 2019
#8
applegrove
(118,677 posts)1. I have 2 questions. If someone says they are not a citizen can the government
use that info to hunt them down? If they lie and say they are citizens is that a crime?
PSPS
(13,600 posts)2. It's a moot point now.
former9thward
(32,019 posts)3. No and no.
The Census Bureau is prohibited by law from releasing information on individuals to anyone until 70 years have passed.
applegrove
(118,677 posts)4. Good. That's a relief.
Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)8. But the point of the question is to deter non-citizens from completing the census
and fixing the count so those people are not counted.
applegrove
(118,677 posts)9. Plus the count of citizens would be 11 million less, no? Fewer resources for
election day, like voting machines, that are already lacking in poorer areas where illegal immigrants live.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)5. LOL - laws!
Like those matter to the Fourth Reich!
former9thward
(32,019 posts)6. If you really believe that then why do anything?
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)7. Honor - the same reason the last Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto rebelled.
I refuse to let our Republic die without a fight.
And hope - that maybe we can give that evil SOB a heart attack.