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Very important perspective on Trumps tank display, from a friend of a friend in the military:
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FirstLight
(13,360 posts)sTILL, THE WHOLE FUCKING PARADE IS JUST NAUSEATING....GLAD SOMEONE TOLD THE BABY HE WASN'T GONNA GET HIS nORTH kOREAN DISPLAY!
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)I have seen static displays of tanks at least one air show that I remember. Other military vehicles as well over the years at air shows/family days at bases.
I can go down the road a piece and visit a museum that have several tanks, WWI and WWII.
They have history day every spring and there are 3 or 4 of those new fangled Sherman's Donnie crows about there.
This a masturbatory exercise for that fascist pig. He must have a fantasy of totalitarian parades with all the hardware driving by him whilst the Generals fawn at this side. Again fascist pig.
His bastardization of the 4th is an abomination. His static display of tanks is a common thing that the grifter is going to use as a re-election prop.
Don't fall that cr@p.
Mopar151
(9,985 posts)From where they're parked in Iowa. The Pentagon could use lawn ornaments......
JustThinking...
(91 posts)The tanks are hidden way up by the stage and that whole area is surrounded by chain link fence.
Only invited GOP donors and paid ticketholders are allowed in.
If that isn't a government paid-for political campaign rally, my entire reality has collapsed.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)In case Trump tries to split up the US after his time in office is over.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)I heard this on the news and thought it was a mistake. A parade with stationary tanks? Will the marching bands be standing still and not marching?
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)They're not in any type of parade.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)They shipped some worn out stuff up from Georgia to appease him. They're all scratched up like they just came out of a field exercise.
McKim
(2,412 posts)Hope they are very dirty too!
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Standards.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Resist!
cp
(6,636 posts)Courage.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Glad to hear this!
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)malaise
(269,050 posts)This is HUGE!!
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)... because the tanks would totally destroy the streets on the parade route. Does anybody really think that Chump would pay a half million $ out of his own pocket to repave the streets? Of course not!
At least cooler heads are prevailing on this, even though Chump still gets his stupid parade at taxpayers' expense. He doesn't even care that the tanks are totally inappropriate.
Grokenstein
(5,725 posts)"Now (sniff), now I wanted these, these, uh......(snurf) these bigly mightly tanks rollin' down (snrrrrk) the streets, but the liberals in the military wouldn't stop crying about it. John, uh, (lengthy sniffling fit) McCain, who never won an election in a yuge landslide like I did, and I did, you might remember it, lock her up! (waits for applause) But, now, John Mc...McCain would be proud of these military liberals, but the military serves the President! Which is me! I saved the world! I want these tanks rolling down the streets of every American city! And I'm going to (snurk, belch), I'm going to GET it!! Thank me!"
Delmette2.0
(4,166 posts)Thank you for the sniffs...snurks....snrrk.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)a campaign rally, complete with red-hatted MAGAts. Trump can't control himself. It's supposed to be about our country's independence, but he'll have to turn it into a dog and pony show that's all about him. If there's a microphone and some cameras in front of him he will not waste the opportunity to tell wonderful lies about himself. The major networks aren't covering it, but FAUX Noise is sure to be there, and they'll slobber all over the Orange Blob as usual. I imagine Hannity will volunteer to kiss Trump's butt for the FAUX Noise viewers as well. You just know it's going to turn into a Trump rally.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Ligyron
(7,633 posts)Hell, I drove an M109 my damn self. Not that I want Trump to have a tank parade but I don't get it. 175mm self propelled guns and recovery vehicles, tanks of all kinds were running down the roads over there. Now many city centers had cobblestone but I never heard of anyone complaining.Trying to remember if those roads were concrete elsewhere...
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)made of Asphalt and baking in 90 degree heat all day back then? Asphalt will turn very soft in D.C.'s hot summer sun. I believe the treads on those tanks would tear the hell out of the roads, but I've never been near a tank in my lifetime, so what the hell do I know?
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)It was always cool over in Germany it seemed like. Well, it never came close to ninety degrees anyway. That would make a big difference.
rickford66
(5,524 posts)Said the specs for the roads were much tougher than here. Much deeper and more reinforcement. Probably goes back to the original Autobahn which was designed for military use.
RussellCattle
(1,535 posts)....and are still in use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_roads#Construction_and_engineering
See here.
Heat melts tarmac, and stalls jet departure
https://wtvr.com/2012/07/08/heat-melts-tarmac-and-stalls-jet-departure/
This one is from 2012. We have only gotten hotter.
trev
(1,480 posts)They were marked by special signs. When I was there, there were many complaints from German farmers about their fields and buildings being damaged.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)Makes since. Bet the US paid a price and a half for that damage. I do remember one of our long guns taking out the corner of a building once.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)in Okinawa. I understand that they have color coded maps now that tell our military what vehicle can go where.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Newer M1A1 (and A2) Abrams tanks weigh about 67 tons. Modern US city streets are just not made to bear that kind of loading. Plus, tank treads in a turn produce a much more damaging stress to road surface than rubber tires, regardless of the weight loading.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)And tanks weigh an obscene amount.
Something I remember from years back was a push to get super-sized trucks onto our highways and off the railroad tracks. Somebody in Washington just does not like railroads, don't ask me why. In any case, the most salient objection was that this scheme would cause our highways and other roads to break down much more rapidly due to the weight, and that the cost would have fi be borne by states and municipalities.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Salviati
(6,008 posts)Obviously different factors come into play for treads, but since this touches on trucks, I thought I'd chime in with the bit of information I remember from one of my college classes. Road wear scales as about the fourth power of axle weight, so a truck with twice the weight will cause about 16 times as much wear.
Keep that in mind anytime you hear people pushing for mileage taxes instead of gas taxes. At least gas taxes somewhat account for larger weights, due to likely lower fuel efficiency....
Auggie
(31,173 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Somebody should talk him into standing in the open hatch. snap a couple pictures and then we could pull a Dukakis on him! It would make for great campaign visuals.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)UTUSN
(70,706 posts)lark
(23,105 posts)Drumpf wanted to leave DC torn up so he could show his master that the destruction is accelerating per his demands.
George II
(67,782 posts)tymorial
(3,433 posts)That's my feeling.
Historic NY
(37,450 posts)we would get some decent roads. Here in my upstate Ny County they been piecemealing repairs especially from the tanker trucks and other heavy equipment that turn intersection approaches into rocky roads. Heavy loads and braking make trench's. The old roads used to be reinforced concrete from the 30's - 60's which stood up to the wear and tear. Here winters and salt and calcium mixed compounds caused the concrete to deteriorate. The blacktop of today isn't the same mix of the past, along for the need to speed up paving. I've seen tanks do a dash from the NG Armory to some events, mostly they took old back roads that were paved over concrete. Oh and they all had 'street tread'.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
calimary
(81,310 posts)Thank you to our military!
Karadeniz
(22,535 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)He thinks he can do anything or order anything at all to be done, with zero regard for legality or practicality. I really wish more people would stand up to him and point out things like laws he must obey. To him everything is his own personal reality show.
Alea
(706 posts)When Kennedy rolled tanks through DC during his Inaugural parade. Plus Abrams tanks are a lot heavier.