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These things didn't happen because Trump appointee Bill Barr had orchestrated events so the Mueller Report would be publicly released only after he'd furnished to media a profoundly misleading summary of what America was about to read. It workedmedia focused on Barr's letter.
Once the Mueller Report came out, media saw that it would have the easiest time explaining to those who hadn't yet paid attention to the Trump-Russia story how Barr's summary was misleading with respect to obstruction of justice. So they focused near-exclusively on that topic.
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Excellent thread by Seth Abramson: I will begin posting. (Original Post)
triron
Jul 2019
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(102,328 posts)1. Full thread "unrolled"
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1147197794190594053.html
@SethAbramson
an hour ago, 24 tweets, 5 min read Read on Twitter
(THREAD) Per the Mueller Report, there's presently insufficient evidence Trump conspired with the IRA or GRUtwo conspiracies no one alleges occurred. But the reportand what's come out sinceconfirms that the conspiracy Trump *has* been accused of *did* happen. Read on for more.
1/ When the Mueller Report came out, media's first responsibility was to clarify for Americans (a) what Trump had been accused of, (b) what Mueller actually investigated, and (c) what Mueller had found *and* the problems his investigation had faced. None of these things happened.
2/ These things didn't happen because Trump appointee Bill Barr had orchestrated events so the Mueller Report would be publicly released only after he'd furnished to media a profoundly misleading summary of what America was about to read. It workedmedia focused on Barr's letter.
3/ Once the Mueller Report came out, media saw that it would have the easiest time explaining to those who hadn't yet paid attention to the Trump-Russia story how Barr's summary was misleading with respect to obstruction of justice. So they focused near-exclusively on that topic.
4/ Fortunately for Trump and Barr, the "obstruction question" had been widely reported on in 2017 and 2018well before the publication of the Mueller Reportso focusing on that one issue wall-to-wall for weeks did nothing but convince Americans that Mueller had found nothing new.
5/ In the coming months, media will begin answering the questions I asked at the beginning of this threadand as it does, it will discover that Trump indeed "conspired" (in the lay sense) with America's enemies, doing so in ways that would be criminally charged as *other* crimes.
6/ But you shouldn't have to wait for media to do that, so I'm going to do it now.
7/
QUESTION 1: What was Trump accused of in the media and elsewhere?
ANSWER 1: Trump was accused of secretly negotiating business deals and U.S. sanctions policy with Russia after he knew it was attacking America, actions that would be charged as Bribery or Aiding and Abetting.
8/
QUESTION 2: What did Mueller investigate?
ANSWER 2: He investigated whether Trump knewbefore the factthat Russian military intelligence (GRU) was going to hack US entities, or that the Internet Research Agency (a Russian troll factory) planned a US disinformation campaign.
9/
QUESTION 3: Did anyone accuse Trump of what Mueller investigated?
ANSWER 3: No. Even the Steele dossiera file of raw intel Trump allies falsely claim launched the Trump-Russia probeonly alleges Trump allies helped fund the IRA disinformation campaign after it was 80% over.
10/
QUESTION 4: Why did Mueller limit his scope in this way?
ANSWER 4: Mueller answers this in many different ways in his report. First, he says he was tasked only with looking at charges that could be brought as "conspiracy"not other crimes that might constitute "collusion."
11/
QUESTION 5: So Mueller didn't find "no collusion"?
ANSWER 5: No, he didn't. Collusionbroadly writwasn't investigated. In Vol. 1 of the report, all Mueller says is he couldn't establish a before-the-fact Trump-IRA or Trump-GRU *conspiracy charge* beyond a reasonable doubt.
12/
QUESTION 6: Did Mueller make a conclusive finding about Trump-IRA or Trump-GRU conspiracy charges?
ANSWER 6: Nohe stated Trump and his team had engaged in numerous actions that thwarted investigation of the conspiracy question, making a conclusive determination impossible.
13/
QUESTION 7: Why did Mueller give up on the two conspiracy charges he'd looked at?
ANSWER 7: We don't know. Maybe he thought Trump and his team would never permit him to access the evidence he needed. Maybe he realized no one had ever accused Trump of an IRA/GRU conspiracy.
14/ Okay, so if Mr. Trump was in *fact* accusedincluding by scores of journalists and attorneys wrongly called "conspiracy theorists" and wrongly said to have been proven "wrong" after the Mueller Reportof bribery and aiding and abetting, what happened with *those* allegations?
15/ The answer is two-fold: on Mueller's end, evidence relating to *those* charges has been referredper Muellerto the FBI counterintelligence division *and/or* transmuted into one or more of the *14 pending federal criminal probes* that grew out of the special counsel's work.
16/ The second part of the answer is thatin the mediaproof has now been compiled confirming Trump's campaign was secretly negotiating business deals with Russia *and* secretly negotiating U.S. sanctions policy with Russia before *and* after it knew the Kremlin was attacking us.
17/ In simpler terms, whatever Russia's initial reasons for election interferencewhich may well have included foreknowledge of Trump's Russia policy directly from Trump himself (in Moscow in 2013)Trump and his team secretly induced Russia to keep interfering with our election.
18/ The reason you haven't read much about this is because right-leaning media didn't cover it and left-leaning media either didn't research the questionand therefore didn't understand what the allegations wereor it *did* and falsely called the allegation a "conspiracy theory."
19/ That brings us to today, when THE MIDDLE EAST EYEa UK media outlet run by top US/UK journalistscontinued its years-long series of exposes on the Trump-Russia case by re-introducing us to the man beside Trump in the pic atop this thread: George Nader.
George Nader: How a convicted paedophile became key to an Emirati hook up with Trump | Middle East Eye
Former colleagues recall Nader, who is facing up to 40 years in prison on a child pornography charge, as a 'village idiot' who was obsessed with money
https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/george-nader-how-convicted-paedophile-became-key-emirati-hook-trump
20/ My forthcoming book PROOF OF CONSPIRACY establishes that Nader met *repeatedly*pre-electionwith the *top brass* of the Trump campaign (including Flynn, Bannon, Kushner, campaign-adjacent Trump family member Trump Jr. and others) *after* it was known Russia was attacking us.
21/ During the period Nader held these meetings, he was in regular contact with the Kremlinindeed traveled to Moscow to meet Kremlin officials multiple timesin particular a Putin lieutenant, Kirill Dmitriev, who'd been put in charge, by Putin, of...
...sanctions negotiations.
22/ On the Trump side, the campaign officials Nader met withFlynn, Bannon, and Kushnerhad been tasked with orchestrating a "global" resolution to the U.S.-Russia sanctions issue, even though any negotiating they did with foreign officials on that topic pre-election was illegal.
23/ The Kremlin was happy with Trump's policy on US-Russia sanctionsthe US should drop them, for no reason and without any policy concessions from Putinbut Flynn, Bannon, and Kushner knew this would just look like a Trump-Russia quid pro quo for future business deals in Moscow.
an hour ago, 24 tweets, 5 min read Read on Twitter
(THREAD) Per the Mueller Report, there's presently insufficient evidence Trump conspired with the IRA or GRUtwo conspiracies no one alleges occurred. But the reportand what's come out sinceconfirms that the conspiracy Trump *has* been accused of *did* happen. Read on for more.
1/ When the Mueller Report came out, media's first responsibility was to clarify for Americans (a) what Trump had been accused of, (b) what Mueller actually investigated, and (c) what Mueller had found *and* the problems his investigation had faced. None of these things happened.
2/ These things didn't happen because Trump appointee Bill Barr had orchestrated events so the Mueller Report would be publicly released only after he'd furnished to media a profoundly misleading summary of what America was about to read. It workedmedia focused on Barr's letter.
3/ Once the Mueller Report came out, media saw that it would have the easiest time explaining to those who hadn't yet paid attention to the Trump-Russia story how Barr's summary was misleading with respect to obstruction of justice. So they focused near-exclusively on that topic.
4/ Fortunately for Trump and Barr, the "obstruction question" had been widely reported on in 2017 and 2018well before the publication of the Mueller Reportso focusing on that one issue wall-to-wall for weeks did nothing but convince Americans that Mueller had found nothing new.
5/ In the coming months, media will begin answering the questions I asked at the beginning of this threadand as it does, it will discover that Trump indeed "conspired" (in the lay sense) with America's enemies, doing so in ways that would be criminally charged as *other* crimes.
6/ But you shouldn't have to wait for media to do that, so I'm going to do it now.
7/
QUESTION 1: What was Trump accused of in the media and elsewhere?
ANSWER 1: Trump was accused of secretly negotiating business deals and U.S. sanctions policy with Russia after he knew it was attacking America, actions that would be charged as Bribery or Aiding and Abetting.
8/
QUESTION 2: What did Mueller investigate?
ANSWER 2: He investigated whether Trump knewbefore the factthat Russian military intelligence (GRU) was going to hack US entities, or that the Internet Research Agency (a Russian troll factory) planned a US disinformation campaign.
9/
QUESTION 3: Did anyone accuse Trump of what Mueller investigated?
ANSWER 3: No. Even the Steele dossiera file of raw intel Trump allies falsely claim launched the Trump-Russia probeonly alleges Trump allies helped fund the IRA disinformation campaign after it was 80% over.
10/
QUESTION 4: Why did Mueller limit his scope in this way?
ANSWER 4: Mueller answers this in many different ways in his report. First, he says he was tasked only with looking at charges that could be brought as "conspiracy"not other crimes that might constitute "collusion."
11/
QUESTION 5: So Mueller didn't find "no collusion"?
ANSWER 5: No, he didn't. Collusionbroadly writwasn't investigated. In Vol. 1 of the report, all Mueller says is he couldn't establish a before-the-fact Trump-IRA or Trump-GRU *conspiracy charge* beyond a reasonable doubt.
12/
QUESTION 6: Did Mueller make a conclusive finding about Trump-IRA or Trump-GRU conspiracy charges?
ANSWER 6: Nohe stated Trump and his team had engaged in numerous actions that thwarted investigation of the conspiracy question, making a conclusive determination impossible.
13/
QUESTION 7: Why did Mueller give up on the two conspiracy charges he'd looked at?
ANSWER 7: We don't know. Maybe he thought Trump and his team would never permit him to access the evidence he needed. Maybe he realized no one had ever accused Trump of an IRA/GRU conspiracy.
14/ Okay, so if Mr. Trump was in *fact* accusedincluding by scores of journalists and attorneys wrongly called "conspiracy theorists" and wrongly said to have been proven "wrong" after the Mueller Reportof bribery and aiding and abetting, what happened with *those* allegations?
15/ The answer is two-fold: on Mueller's end, evidence relating to *those* charges has been referredper Muellerto the FBI counterintelligence division *and/or* transmuted into one or more of the *14 pending federal criminal probes* that grew out of the special counsel's work.
16/ The second part of the answer is thatin the mediaproof has now been compiled confirming Trump's campaign was secretly negotiating business deals with Russia *and* secretly negotiating U.S. sanctions policy with Russia before *and* after it knew the Kremlin was attacking us.
17/ In simpler terms, whatever Russia's initial reasons for election interferencewhich may well have included foreknowledge of Trump's Russia policy directly from Trump himself (in Moscow in 2013)Trump and his team secretly induced Russia to keep interfering with our election.
18/ The reason you haven't read much about this is because right-leaning media didn't cover it and left-leaning media either didn't research the questionand therefore didn't understand what the allegations wereor it *did* and falsely called the allegation a "conspiracy theory."
19/ That brings us to today, when THE MIDDLE EAST EYEa UK media outlet run by top US/UK journalistscontinued its years-long series of exposes on the Trump-Russia case by re-introducing us to the man beside Trump in the pic atop this thread: George Nader.
George Nader: How a convicted paedophile became key to an Emirati hook up with Trump | Middle East Eye
Former colleagues recall Nader, who is facing up to 40 years in prison on a child pornography charge, as a 'village idiot' who was obsessed with money
https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/george-nader-how-convicted-paedophile-became-key-emirati-hook-trump
20/ My forthcoming book PROOF OF CONSPIRACY establishes that Nader met *repeatedly*pre-electionwith the *top brass* of the Trump campaign (including Flynn, Bannon, Kushner, campaign-adjacent Trump family member Trump Jr. and others) *after* it was known Russia was attacking us.
21/ During the period Nader held these meetings, he was in regular contact with the Kremlinindeed traveled to Moscow to meet Kremlin officials multiple timesin particular a Putin lieutenant, Kirill Dmitriev, who'd been put in charge, by Putin, of...
...sanctions negotiations.
22/ On the Trump side, the campaign officials Nader met withFlynn, Bannon, and Kushnerhad been tasked with orchestrating a "global" resolution to the U.S.-Russia sanctions issue, even though any negotiating they did with foreign officials on that topic pre-election was illegal.
23/ The Kremlin was happy with Trump's policy on US-Russia sanctionsthe US should drop them, for no reason and without any policy concessions from Putinbut Flynn, Bannon, and Kushner knew this would just look like a Trump-Russia quid pro quo for future business deals in Moscow.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,389 posts)2. thanks!
My connection is slow and intermittent, today.
triron
(22,009 posts)3. Thanks very much. The way I normally do it is arduous and slow.
triron
(22,009 posts)4. I will be eager to read his new book.
Delphinus
(11,840 posts)5. Helpful -
thanks!
triron
(22,009 posts)6. Check the link; Seth posted more now.
triron
(22,009 posts)8. kick for visibility
triron
(22,009 posts)10. kick for visibility