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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,212 posts)
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 08:22 PM Jul 2019

Starbucks barista asks police officers to leave because customer 'did not feel safe,' union claims

A group of police officers werereportedly asked to move or leave a Starbucks coffee shop on the Fourth of July because a customer felt uncomfortable.

According to a tweet from the Tempe Officers Association, six Tempe Police Department officers were drinking coffee before their shift at the Starbucks near Scottsdale and McKellips roads when a barista told them a customer "did not feel safe" by their presence.

The barista allegedly asked the officers to move out of the customer's line of sight or to leave, the tweet states.

"This treatment of public safety workers could not be more disheartening. While the barista was polite, making such a request at all was offensive. Unfortunately, such treatment has become all too common in 2019," the organization wrote. "We know this is not a national policy at Starbucks Corporate and we look forward to working collaboratively with them on this important dialogue."

Reggie Borges, a spokesperson for Starbucks, said the company is still gathering details about the incident.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/starbucks-barista-asks-police-officers-to-leave-because-customer-did-not-feel-safe-police-union-claims/ar-AADWQ1T?li=BBnb7Kz

Don't know whether this is true are not. Sad to say it seems some officials in police unions are on the fringe.

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Starbucks barista asks police officers to leave because customer 'did not feel safe,' union claims (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 OP
I agree with Mickey Rourke on this subject: ret5hd Jul 2019 #1
I wonder who this customer would call if stuff went down in his personal life OnlinePoker Jul 2019 #2
Yeah, if they were just sitting there having coffee before their shift, Blue_true Jul 2019 #6
It's a sad state of affairs, but perfectly understandable given the current climate. jcmaine72 Jul 2019 #3
It's slippery slope for a business to ask people who don't do anything wrong to leave, LisaL Jul 2019 #5
I agree. It is no more right to do that to police officers than it is to do it to a Black person, Blue_true Jul 2019 #7
cops being cops are never minding their own fucking business gopiscrap Jul 2019 #29
Agreed. I don't necessarily agree with what happened. However... jcmaine72 Jul 2019 #8
We don't even know what happened. Mariana Jul 2019 #40
If openly-armed cops sit down and eat where I'm eating, I get up and leave. Iggo Jul 2019 #4
I have eaten near police officers that were on duty and having lunch. Blue_true Jul 2019 #9
It's not the minding of business. It's the guns. Iggo Jul 2019 #11
Seeing a hostered gun initially draws my attention. Blue_true Jul 2019 #14
It's the gun. I don't care who owns it. Iggo Jul 2019 #15
I see. nt Blue_true Jul 2019 #18
+1000. nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #19
There used to be a burger joint near me Retrograde Jul 2019 #24
if I was there first I would gopiscrap Jul 2019 #30
I'd leave with openly-armed people around but not cops onetexan Jul 2019 #41
ACAB. In addition, it's important to note that the Tempe Officers Association is not affiliated with WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #10
Might not have been to bright ripcord Jul 2019 #12
That would assume that cops respond slower for people they don't like. Iggo Jul 2019 #13
Why would they show up at all? ripcord Jul 2019 #16
If they didn't show up when called, that would make them the worst kind of scum. Iggo Jul 2019 #17
Your argument is not helping ecstatic Jul 2019 #20
It's worse than that. Mariana Jul 2019 #22
yup gopiscrap Jul 2019 #31
It wasn't "Starbucks", it was one employee. Mariana Jul 2019 #21
Starbucks didn't throw them out Major Nikon Jul 2019 #33
I suppose if the cops are basically a protection racket, then yes they would Major Nikon Jul 2019 #38
If the person didn't feel safe then they should of left. Cops have a right to get food and drink UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #23
Fuck 'em. If cops don't like feeling ostracized by society, they can stop murdering innocent Aristus Jul 2019 #25
True, Doctor! mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #26
thank you, best response yet!!! gopiscrap Jul 2019 #32
Pretty amazing. I remember a story about police officers, armed of course, maybe five of them, emmaverybo Jul 2019 #27
Can you provide a link sarisataka Jul 2019 #36
Yes I can. Less officers killed than I remember and one officer shot at suspect. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #39
excellent .... fucking cops gopiscrap Jul 2019 #28
I have a feeling there's more to the story Major Nikon Jul 2019 #34
They're really playing up the persecution angle. Mariana Jul 2019 #35
Yep, smells a lot like bullshit Major Nikon Jul 2019 #37
I would like to get JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #42
I side with the cops on this. Everyman Jackal Jul 2019 #43
Update: Starbucks apologizes after six officers say they were asked to leave a store in Arizona Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #44

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
2. I wonder who this customer would call if stuff went down in his personal life
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jul 2019

You may not like cops, but most of them do their jobs well 99+% of the time. They have to see people at their worst on a daily basis and try to resolve issues with people who don't want to deal with them. It's not a profession I could ever function in.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. Yeah, if they were just sitting there having coffee before their shift,
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 09:55 PM
Jul 2019

they were people minding their own business like everyone else and should have been left alone.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
5. It's slippery slope for a business to ask people who don't do anything wrong to leave,
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jul 2019

because some customer "doesn't feel safe."

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. I agree. It is no more right to do that to police officers than it is to do it to a Black person,
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jul 2019

if all are minding their own business, which looked like the case.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
8. Agreed. I don't necessarily agree with what happened. However...
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jul 2019

....as I wrote above, it's understandable.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
40. We don't even know what happened.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:57 AM
Jul 2019

We've only heard one side of the story, from an extremely biased source.

Iggo

(47,568 posts)
4. If openly-armed cops sit down and eat where I'm eating, I get up and leave.
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jul 2019

Actually, if openly-armed ANYBODY sits down and eats where I'm eating, I get up and leave.

There's no way I'd ask management to make somebody else leave, though.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. I have eaten near police officers that were on duty and having lunch.
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:03 PM
Jul 2019

They minded their business and I minded mine. I felt no need to move.

Iggo

(47,568 posts)
11. It's not the minding of business. It's the guns.
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jul 2019

I don't eat with people flashing heat.

The ones that hide it I can't do anything about.

But if I can spot 'em, I'm outa there.

It's got nothing to do with them minding their own business.

And like I said, that goes for ANYBODY. But where I live, it's overwhelmingly cops.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. Seeing a hostered gun initially draws my attention.
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:37 PM
Jul 2019

But then I go back to doing what I was doing. The gun owners being police officers is not remotely as concerning as sleaze balls walking in packing heat.

Retrograde

(10,158 posts)
24. There used to be a burger joint near me
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jul 2019

that was a go-to lunch spot for police from four different agencies. They'd come in, have lunch, pay, and leave. Interestingly, the officers from different jurisdictions didn't mingle.

I don't want to see places of public accomodation start on this slippery slope.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,438 posts)
10. ACAB. In addition, it's important to note that the Tempe Officers Association is not affiliated with
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jul 2019

the AFL-CIO and in fact prides itself in being "an independent local organization having no affiliation with 'big labor unions'." Police unions aren't usually a place to look for labor solidarity, but TOA seems to go above and beyond when it comes to looking out for its own and fuck you.

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
12. Might not have been to bright
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:19 PM
Jul 2019

I hope they don't expect a fast response should they get robbed or have an emergency.

Iggo

(47,568 posts)
13. That would assume that cops respond slower for people they don't like.
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:31 PM
Jul 2019

The good guys would never do that.

Would they?

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
16. Why would they show up at all?
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jul 2019

Starbucks already threw them out, it would be hypocritical in the extreme to call the police for help at this point.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
20. Your argument is not helping
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jul 2019

Are you suggesting that cops are spiteful thugs who have to be coddled in order to do their jobs?

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
22. It's worse than that.
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 11:26 PM
Jul 2019

The poster is suggesting the cops should be spiteful thugs who have to be coddled in order to do their jobs. That it's only right and proper for the cops retaliate against the staff and the customers of this shop.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
21. It wasn't "Starbucks", it was one employee.
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 11:22 PM
Jul 2019

Do you really think it's all right for the police to discriminate against the all the other people who work there, as well as the customers, because one employee asked them to move to another spot or leave?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
38. I suppose if the cops are basically a protection racket, then yes they would
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 01:45 AM
Jul 2019

But such things never happen in America, right?

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
23. If the person didn't feel safe then they should of left. Cops have a right to get food and drink
Sat Jul 6, 2019, 11:39 PM
Jul 2019

even though they usually park illegally to do so.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
25. Fuck 'em. If cops don't like feeling ostracized by society, they can stop murdering innocent
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:19 AM
Jul 2019

unarmed people.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
26. True, Doctor!
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:30 AM
Jul 2019

Another thing to consider is just WHY these cops were making a customer feel uncomfortable, to the point that a Barista is ready to lose his/her job over asking them to move or leave?

The idea that they were totally minding their own business and not 'talking shit' seems ... well, possible, sure ... but somewhat unlikely to me.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
27. Pretty amazing. I remember a story about police officers, armed of course, maybe five of them,
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:49 AM
Jul 2019

male and female, drinking coffee at a popular spot some years back during a spate of police ambushing, They were all executed. I always was surprised that given their training and numbers they could not defend themselves. The elephant of surprise.

I don’t know the police culture in Tempe. But I don’t recall any group of officers on a break at
a Peets or Starbucks brutalizing customers.

On the other hand, a barista panicked over two black males wanting to use the restroom at a trendy coffee shop not too long ago, refused service, and called police who arrested them.

It’s a tough job baristering. Looks like some more in-services needed.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
35. They're really playing up the persecution angle.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 01:21 AM
Jul 2019

"Unfortunately, such treatment has become all too common in 2019." Oh, bullshit. The reason this made the news in the first place is because stuff like this almost never happens to cops.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
37. Yep, smells a lot like bullshit
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 01:41 AM
Jul 2019

In order to believe their version you have to believe a customer complained to Starbucks for absolutely no good reason and an employee of Starbucks asked them to move to the other side of the store for absolutely no good reason. Instead of moving they left the store and whined to their union instead of asking the official police PR spokesperson to make a tweet or statement. It's also completely uncommon for cops to act like aggressive assholes, right?

Definitely more to this story. I doubt we'll hear it from Starbucks, but hopefully some of the other customers will step up. Lordy, I hope there are tapes.

 

Everyman Jackal

(271 posts)
43. I side with the cops on this.
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 07:21 AM
Jul 2019

Until someone can show me proof that the cops were doing something wrong I believe the employee was out of line. Let the customer come forward and explain why he or she was afraid of the cops drinking coffee.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,212 posts)
44. Update: Starbucks apologizes after six officers say they were asked to leave a store in Arizona
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 01:22 PM
Jul 2019

Starbucks is issuing another public apology more than a year after officers arrested two black men in a Philadelphia store.

This time, though, the coffee giant is apologizing to officers with the Tempe Police Department in Arizona.

In a statement Friday, the Tempe Officers Association said six officers walked into a Starbucks to enjoy some coffee on July Fourth. The group was approached by a barista who told the officers that a customer "did not feel safe" because of their presence.

"The barista asked the officers to move out of the customer's line of sight or to leave," the association said. The officers ultimately left the store "disappointed."

"This treatment of public safety workers could not be more disheartening. While the barista was polite, making such a request at all was offensive," the statement read. "Unfortunately, such treatment has become all too common in 2019."

-more-

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/starbucks-apologizes-after-six-officers-say-they-were-asked-to-leave-a-store-in-arizona/ar-AADXm16?li=BBnb7Kz

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