It is tiring to hear Democratic leadership again criticizing the so-called "left".

That Left bashing probably cost us the 2016 POTUS election more than devious Russians.

because no candidate can pass their purity test.

You can't expect the rest of the party to cater to a small segment who value idealism over pragmatism when it takes a coalition left right and center to win.

tells them that they don't belong in the party. That their ideas and ideals are not even welcome. That those ideas and ideals should not even be expressed and certainly never fought for.

That only the ever rightward shifting "center" matters.

Pragmatism would be listening and valuing all the voices in the party instead of always appeasing the so-called center out of the belief that the Left has no other choice.

Disclaimer: I have voted for the Democrat in every election since I was 18 years old. Local, off year, presidential year, every one except for one local when I was in a hospital following a c-section.

standards so they do not take responsibility for helping the party lose.

If you are in a card game you have to play the hand that is dealt. Win then the deal is passed to you. Lose and you get nothing.

The deal for 2020 is it will take a coalition of different views to beat trump. We can’t go left because some leader told us to.

you don't tell part of your team that they aren't welcome at the game and that they have no value.

I'm sick of hearing that only centrists matter, that "the left" is worthless and should sit down and shut up.

Often. And stays home.

Links please.

Otherwise, you might want to restate that.


Disclaimer: I have voted and will vote for the Democrat in every election.

that isn't merited. 3d chess? please...
The recent cave and then cya letter begging trump to consider - give me a break.

But progressives are told to shut up and get in line - hopefully times are changing.


Disclaimer: I have voted and will vote for the Democrat in every election.

Links please?


Disclaimer: I have voted and will vote for the Democrat in every election.

Nancy had bent over backward even after AOC embarrassed the Caucus several times and let's not forget her threat to primary members who do not toe her line.

A majority if americans as far as i have read agrees with most liberal positions...WHEN those positions are explained and made clear.

Is that clearer?

who stays home or voted for Stien that cost us the 16 election.

Pelosi's comment was needlessly snark laden. She is a seasoned leader who IMO could have chosen her initial words in a less confrontational manner.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has issued a surprisingly scathing attack on the cadre of progressive freshmen women who have established high profiles among the chamber’s Democrats, dismissing them as having a “public whatever” but lacking significant political backing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-freshmen-congresswomen-progressives-081719792.html

she and her so-called squad have been having a fit.

I hope the outcome will be different. Keep eyes on the Prize. Also keep eyes on the stealing and suppression the Republican is doing.

It's nice to see DEMs in the news instead of puppets.

Keep debating (and baiting m$m).

explained that 40% of her Mass district is immigrants. This is an issue important to them and her vote reflects her support for them.

And AOC is right. Times they are a changing'.

The fact is, many liberals and progressives did not support the senate version of the bill that was sent "take it or leave it" back to the House. But they held their noses to pass it.

not blindly follow their wishes when you believe they are wrong.

Certainly the ones who flipped Republican seats.

I don't know about Tlaib and Pressley, but Ocasio-Cortez and Omar won in such heavily liberal districts that anyone with the D after their name could win.

of the Democrats, at least. They do not, They scare the voters who wanted to give us a chance last November.

We won the House thanks to Pelosi's genius in guiding the campaigns.

A person who's willing to lose the war to win a fight.

Link to tweet

AOC needs to tone it down right now. It's not the time to be picking fights with other Democrats. We can worry about more meaningful change once Trump is out of the White House. What we need right now is unity.

going on than she does.

serious reform of our system, yes indeed Ocasio-Cortez is disruptive.

We need more disrupters like Ocasio-Cortez.

need to have control of BOTH chambers. We need control of the SENATE to undo he damage MoscowMitch has done to the judiciary. And so on.

and she and her pals not getting their way on a bill. The democracy will survive even with them throwing fits because Nancy was factually correct when she said that AOC and the 3 others are just 4 votes. Frankly, this smacks of a temper tantrum to me.

AOC is a rising liberal star. I’m proud of her.

as on the field of play. That's why we have leaders,plans, and those who follow.

Since when are metaphors out of bounds?

one has to make alliances within that same power structure one dismissed, attacked, and over-rode. Here, without some powerful friends in high places one recruits or pressures to the effort, one is marginalized.

The irony of democracy (title of a book) is that eventually so-called democracy absorbs dissidence
into its political machinery. Hence, Tom Hayden, once a radical anti-war activist, one of the “Chicago 7,” marries Jane Fonda, and puts the suit on.

Examples proliferate. Eldridge Cleaver, one of the most prominent members of the Black Panthers,
joined the Church of Latter Day Saints and became a prominent Republican.

I don’t believe AOC can maintain influence without educating herself much more thoroughly in the very establishment Democratic Party power politics she claims she doesn’t need.

Public sentiment is a good start. She has a long way to go before she can take Pelosi on.

AOC needs to turn down the volume. Speaker Pelosi has been a leader in the Democratic Party for decades. AOC has been a member of Congress since January. AOC needs to learn that hubris is not a virtue and not a quality found in effective leaders.

Democrats in congress as their leader, year after year.

Look, Pelosi isn't going after higher office, nor does she have a Hollywood agent that might prefer that she make decisions that get her more public attention, and might make a better selling book.

She's been in congress for six months and is publicly battling with the Speaker. It's so like—WTF?

She's a little to full of herself. Social media is what it is but Congress doesn't work that way yet. Their are rituals and procedures and ways to do things. Social media followers don't count as votes.

Guess who will have no problem of getting re-elected? The Speaker has tremendous power and may want to divvy it out to a challenger for AOC who is no match for her right now.

AOC represents a small percentage of the voters we need to beat trump. That is what we need. Not armchair qbs.

disgusting, really

I feel like this is a tempest in a teapot and, really, something both are doing for their respective audiences. IMO the progressive caucus folks know that when it comes down to it, Speaker Pelosi has their backs and will do whatever she can to protect them. And Speaker Pelosi also has to play a game of distancing herself from them in public because she wants to protect the moderates in the caucus from being lumped in with AOC, Omar, etc., so she's doing a delicate dance. I trust AOC knows this, too.

A vast majority of Democrats even in her district like Pelosi.

And … without Pelosi's help, there will be no pork for NY14 -- which means AOC will have nothing to show to her district except tweets.

I would rather see dissent in the Democratic Party. I don't want to see the Democrats walking in lock step like the Trump/Republicans. Anyone that speaks against party leadership has no place in the party like the Republicans ?See Justin Amash/Corker/Mark Sanford/ - - No thank you.

get off it already...….you are outmatched by Nancy1

Question: What has AOC accomplished?

She has also said this, after saying she is cutting back social media use, closed her personal Facebook account: "I actually think that social media poses a public health risk to everybody. ... It has effects on everybody: increasing isolation, depression, anxiety, addiction, escapism."

The last line about 2008 puzzles me because I thought the Obama campaign famously used social media to a degree nobody had done before.