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Daniel Mascarenhas remembers the exact day he got the idea.
One of my patients had a pacemaker, and she died, the Easton, Pennsylvania, cardiologist said, recalling an event in 2002. I was a little upset. They put in a pacemaker, two days later she was dead, and they buried her with the pacemaker.
Mascarenhas, 64, is used to his patients being sick, and sometimes dying. But on that day he was troubled by what continued to live on: that peppermint-patty sized device in her chest, which would continue to ping for years to come. Thats a lot of money, he thought, not to mention life-saving technology, buried six feet under.
After seeing this scenario play out over and over, the mild-mannered Indian-American physician came up with a scheme. I call up the funeral homes. Every week when I have nothing better to do, instead of golfing, I call and find out if they have devices, he said. If they do, he asks permission from the family to have a mortician remove the device from the body.
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xga5d/what-good-does-a-pacemaker-do-in-a-corpse
TheBlackAdder
(28,214 posts).
I wouldn't be surprised if the funeral homes don't pull them out too and sell them on the black market.
They probably get thousands for one.
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hlthe2b
(102,370 posts)It is an involved sterilization process with lots of checks along the way if any were curious:
https://www.med.umich.edu/myheartyourheart/pdf/j.jacep.2016.12.007.full%20(1).pdf
rampartc
(5,435 posts)but this is most important in cases of cremation, where the batteries can damage the chamber or injure the operators.
https://www.neptunesociety.com/cremation-information-articles/why-a-pacemaker-should-be-removed-prior-to-cremation
Harker
(14,036 posts)or a suit and tie.
nocoincidences
(2,230 posts)That is technology worth recycling!
Of course, anything this sensible is going to be objectionable to some government body and/or the manufacturer making money off new ones.
This doc is courageous and praise-worthy!!
hlthe2b
(102,370 posts)and refurbishing, allowing them to be exported to other countries that request them.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)We would have agreed to my dad's being used for another if the option was there.
musette_sf
(10,206 posts)and I thought, at the time, what a waste, surely they could have taken it and used it for an indigent patient.
irisblue
(33,026 posts)Source--https://www.medicinenet.com/pets/dog-health/human_pacemakers_offer_hope_to_ailing_dogs.htm
Guiedo, a 12-year-old hound mix, recently received a pacemaker after getting diagnosed with heart block, a condition in which the electrical signal that makes the organ contract and pump blood is disrupted.
More at source
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)I learn something new on DU every single day.
ooky
(8,929 posts)Great stuff, especially to a 9 year old dog owner.
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)Two of my dogs lived past 18, so I still think of him as a puppy. I'm grateful for all that I've learned here.
Wounded Bear
(58,713 posts)Why bury/burn something that could be useful to save another life?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)He should be dead!
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Damn!
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)Susan Calvin
(1,649 posts)Somebody gave Cheney a heart transplant? Instead of just letting him fuck off and die?
aidbo
(2,328 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)gaiadiversity
(60 posts)got an extra 5 healthy happy years of life with a donated, used human pacemaker. I just had to pay for the surgery. A very good way to recycle for both humans and animals.
KT2000
(20,588 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)do those big paws mean that pup will be a BIG dog?
orleans
(34,073 posts)i'm so glad that you and hammy were able to get a pacemaker.
(stupidly, i didn't realize dogs could have pacemakers)
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)Thanks for the information, something to keep in mind!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm so glad he/she got a second shot at a longer life!
imanamerican63
(13,815 posts)My father died 3 days after they put in a pacemaker in. It was March 2002. I was wondering why, if they knew he wasn't going to make thru the weekend, did they do the procedure. It was not his heart, it was his kidneys that was the cause of his death. All the pacemaker did was complicate things more. I am not a doctor and will never be as smart as some of them, but the doctors who cared for my fathers where incompetent to be said.
Susan Calvin
(1,649 posts)Or possibly training oriented. My mom had a new central line put in, when they knew perfectly well she was toast. I wasn't in any shape to say no.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)They told me anthing like a pacemaker has to be removed by them first.
Susan Calvin
(1,649 posts)And hope something useful is done with them.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)to a person in need but was told they couldn't do that because it was inside his body. I thought they could sterilize it. The cost was 36,000.00. He didn't die of heart failure he had a aneurysm and was brain dead. He was a organ donor and they could put his liver, etc.in someone's body but not the defibrillator. It made no sense to me.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)They lied to you.
"The sad part, Mascarenhas said, is that we could reuse them in this country by re-sterilizing them but nobody wants to do this, because we are a land where we learn to waste.
Robin Hood-ing cardiologist decided that it was time to salvage the devices that lived beyond their original human hosts.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7xga5d/what-good-does-a-pacemaker-do-in-a-corpse
CatMor
(6,212 posts)also, they were removing his organs for donation so it would have been easy to remove the defibrillator. I don't know what happened to it but it's sad if it was thrown away.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)msongs
(67,441 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)He isn't reselling the pacemakers, he is sending them to India to be implanted into patients that can't afford them otherwise.
area51
(11,920 posts)think their citizens are "useless eaters"; it's why healthcare isn't a human right.