And, just to make the observation, since at least three of the entry team appear to be younger women agents, one can guess there may be some specific expertise and/or investigative experience in play... also worth noting appears to be inter-jurisdictional, at least based on the obvious identifiers (FBI AND NYPD)

Interesting.

That talks with evidence.

how the U.S. justice system works in that regard.

The state could nail him and a Federal pardon would not help.. Like Manafort.. NYS could nail his ass... Only if the fix is not in.....Like with Acosta in Fla...
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under George W Bush in 2008, I believe.

Also, I believe Ivanka and Jared were going to be charged by NY State several years back, but then Daddy donated money to the NY AG and the possible charges disappeared

I hate when that shit happens.. Like the kid that got off on a rape charge cause he was from a good family.... I want to puke..
Rank and money has power us "little people" can't compete with. That's why we need strong politicians to level the playing field........ I hope...
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Trump donated to Pam Bondi and she dropped her state's investigation into Trump University. Then, when Sessions was canned, she was among those rumored to be replacing Sessions as AG.

against the United States while president.

SDNY is Southern (federal court) District of New York; however, the New York STATE Attorney General can file charges under state law, and given the apparent involvement of NYPD in the raid on Epstein's home (based on the press photos), presumably the Manhattan District Attorney could file state charges as well.

Federal pardon power doesn't reach to state or local cases.

There's also the obvious issue of political fallout; even as depraved as the majority of GOP lawmakers are these days, they're not going to go on the record of favoring presidential pardons for pimps.

Link to tweet

Epstein is simply too hot. There's too much already known. Anyone who can read already knows that Epstein got an illegal plea deal, that Trumpy rewarded the dealmaker with a Cabinet post, that Trumpy regularly attended Epstein's parties where teenaged girls were assaulted, abused, and raped. A little more detailed reading will reveal that Trumpy used his modeling agency to hold European teens hostage in cramped sleeping quarters and threatened deportation if they did not submit to sexual exploitation. Some of those teens were used at Epstein's parties. There are no mysteries here. There is no way for Trumpy to use morally ambiguous statements to slop through a pardon. Jeez. He could find no justification for pardoning Manafort, and that's saying something. So Manafort rots in jail and will likely die there.
Anyone protecting Trumpy, who is complicit in criminal behavior, ought to take a hint from Manafort's experience, Epstein included. Trumpy will only pardon if it benefits HIM. But there's no benefit to him for pardoning either Manafort or Epstein. So they will rot.

Trumpy cannot claim that Epstein was treated unfairly, then manufacture pity and give him a pardon. It won't work. If it does, you can bet your beanie that NY state charges won't be far behind. Epstein likely has spent his last days as a free person. Trumpy is already saying that he knows nothing, which should be a tell that he knows everything. Oh. And one more thing. Epstein won't last long in prison, either, if he's not in solitary. He'll be sliced to ribbons by inmates if he's not given VIP treatment in prison. Perhaps there are federal pens that will provide massages for him. I'm sure that there are hundreds of inmates who would clammer to be his masseur.

The Dems will HAVE to impeach. The Repubs will HAVE to wear trump around their necks like anvils at a swimming pool.

pissed off about where all their million$ disappeared to.

In this case you'll have a bunch of millionaires (quite possibly including the POTUS), wanting to cover their asses. Will Epstein's info about their involvement be met with the 'welcome' as was his Bear Stern's info?

I guess we'll see, but with Barr in charge, I'm not holding out much hope of this case turning out beneficial to Democrats as a whole.

One of the prosecutors at SDNY is... wait for it...

Maureen Comey. Got the last name? That's right. Maureen Comey is James Comey's daughter. SDNY knows all about Epstein's scams with Trumpy. Prosecutors prosecute.

For ... so many reasons.

Not saying they're going to let him slide, just that their focus probably won't be on cutting a plea deal with him for giving them the names of rich people that partook of his 'services'.

Unfortunately once Epstein names Democrats and the DOJ conveniently leaks the names, those Democrats have nothing to lose by exposing the Republicans that also attended the sex parties. Currently they are all protecting each other.

Personally, I hope they all go down together and that we get to hear from the victims. So sick of powerful men spouting family values being hypocrites.

The "good ol' boys" club needs to end. I don't care who these men are or what their party affiliation is.... they need to be punished equally.

"value" the exploitation and objectification of teenaged girls as sex objects. It's not hypocritical. It's evil.

Trump has bought in fully to the Putin Playbook, let's not forget.

A reference to this;

Russian Official Linked to Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Trump Tower Lawyer, Is Dead

Pedophiles and women beaters are the lowest of the low in prison, because convicts have families and daughters too.

If you imagine your average convict in federal prison is going to be wildly offended by the idea of someone paying for sex with 14-16 year old girls, I think you'd probably be disappointed.

Not to mention, if everyone in jail knows you're filthy rich and stupid smart (and who beat a rap for over a decade) ... they'll mostly wanna be your friend.

EDIT: Hopefully, the girls get all his money. That will definitely disadvantage him in a prison situation.

can often use a form of overcompensation to resolve their guilt and become hyper vigilant when confronted with another rapist or sexual offender. We see this often when a sexual offender/minister becomes engaged in preaching against the sins of rapists. So I wouldn't be so dismissive of the notion that inmates would be outraged by Epstein's history, no matter what their own criminal history.

But more to your point, Epstein's wealth and notoriety raises the probability of his getting off scot-free. That being said, there's too much water under the bridge for anyone in the LE system to "mistakenly" give Epstein a free pass, now that we already know about Acosta's illegal plea deal. Epstein's fucked, but will never be as damaged as his victims.

children, then yeah, you're gonna get f'd with by other prisoners BIG TIME.

I think it becomes a lot less likely if you go in as a freakin' billionaire who was paying off 14-16 year old girls for sex.

It's not going to inspire the same widespread hatred that an actual pedophile (esp. a gay one, I would wager) of a regular income ... would ... is my only-slight educated guess.

People in prison tend to be pretty pragmatic, and money is king in prison. As is being able to offer other prisoners help on their cases, which Epstein definitely could.

Hell, he could probably acquire a set of bodyguards just in exchange for telling them bedtime stories re: his exploits, I hate to say.