them.

Give 'em something to think about, that would!

The women are a big part of the problem in some (many?) of these states. All of the women in my husband’s very large family are rabidly anti-choice. It’s the damn religion and it’s makes them unwilling/unable to think for themselves. I tell them that if they think abortion is wrong, don’t have one. But they prefer to tell the rest of us how to live and make sure the laws are passed to make us do so. My state is full of such women.

used to be a fun loving hippie type, my pride and joy.
we had a special bond when i was still the black sheep of the family (i'm good now, i married well) but now she barely talks to me.
up in alaska, shootin moose in god's country, livin the good life.
same for my oldest sister, till she married a ditto head late in life.

we were raised to be dems. there was no hate in our home. most of us kept to the path, but those that peeled off were peeled off over this issue. that in the face of the bone deep knowledge that our mother's life would have been radically different if she had had control over her body.

how do we de-radicalize these people?

I remember reading the stats.

Men and women in evangelical religious cults are told every Sunday (by a white male) that God wants women to be subservient to men. Women who are allowed to make their own decisions about pregnancy are thus not subservient to men and are not to be tolerated. If they do not protest this freedom, the women who have chosen to be subservient would thus feel less validated in their own choices.

I keep remembering the story from a year or so ago about a young evangelical mother of five children who learned early in her sixth pregnancy that she had a fast-growing cancer that would be terminal without immediate treatment. She chose not to be treated, and both mother and baby died, leaving five other children without a mother. Her evangelical church condoned the decision. So we clearly see that the well being of women is of absolutely no concern to them. Their sole purpose is to prevent women from making their own decisions and forcing them to bow down to the so-called greater wisdom of men, better known as utter hogwash to any rational, thinking human being.

Access to low cost effective contraception, along with promoting equal opportunities for women economically... that would go a long way.

Unfortunately too many young girls raised in poverty see having a baby as a way to keep a man around and get a roof over their heads.

which proves the point of course. That point being that it has never been about feti, or children. It has always been about controlling women's sex lives.

They hate when we point that out, but it's true.

fetus for 5 days until a scheduled abortion on Monday or Tuesday the next week (soonest appointment available). She knows how painful this was for her to carry the fetus for only days.

Now, she is 84, a rabid fox viewer, and has changed her story to say the baby was delivered naturally, definitely NOT ABORTION.

We remember her story. We know how she suffered. We know that she would have not wanted to carry her deceased child for even one more day than necessary.

And yet, she has no problem doing that to others. (She wonders why we don't go with her to church. Maybe it's because we don't see any Christians there, just hypocrites.)

And women, people of color, and immigrants make up the majority of the working class, just for what it's worth.