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Joe Nation

(963 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 10:54 AM Jul 2019

Generational Racism is Southern Red States

Last edited Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:31 PM - Edit history (2)

Children aren't born racists, racism is something they learn from their parents. One of my kids makes an annual summer trek south to Missouri for his/her partner's family get-together which usually involves a week or so of hard drinking and vocal racism at some rented cabin near a lake. My child is just not that into drinking but the Missouri relatives are straight up alcoholics.

My offspring, grew up in the north and with pretty liberal parents and met her/his partner at college. Having escaped the small southern town to get an education, my child's partner realized what a racist upbringing he/she had lived through but still attends the family get-together on an annual basis.

This may be the last year. According to my child, the racism and bigotry is on full display this year. My child has decided to call them out and I fear that this may cause a rift with the in-laws that may never heal.

Any advice on how my child can approach the subject without being ostracized by her/his partner's entire family and friends? I see no way around the inevitable here.

The racism in southern states is very real and generational. I suppose that you can find racism anywhere in the country but the south has it's own flavor of racism that persists from parent to child generation in and generation out. How to deal with this dynamic when it involves your family is a challenge with few viable solutions. As long as racism is being passed down to the next generation, we will have racism in this country well into the future. How sad people do that to their own children.

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Generational Racism is Southern Red States (Original Post) Joe Nation Jul 2019 OP
Being ostracized by racists is bad? atreides1 Jul 2019 #1
I'd tell her to not go, and tell them exactly why... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #2
They're going to insist that they're not racist. Aristus Jul 2019 #3
I'm pretty sure teh science is still 'out' on whether anyone is 'born racist' ... mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #4
They shouldn't go...might not be safe. Lars39 Jul 2019 #5

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
1. Being ostracized by racists is bad?
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jul 2019

If this family is as bad as you make them out to be, then it won't matter...anything your child says is going to be taken as a personal attack on their beliefs!

Your child and his/her partner have to make a decision...either suck it up and get use to a racist tirade every year or call them out and be ostracized...I don't see a middle ground where your child can maintain his/her integrity and beliefs!!!

Whatever is decided...good luck...

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
2. I'd tell her to not go, and tell them exactly why...
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jul 2019

Call them up. Why go through the torture of confronting them in person?

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
3. They're going to insist that they're not racist.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jul 2019

"Oh, I got nothin' against them Neegras. They just gotta keep to their own, just as white folks keep to our own. That's just how the Lord meant it to be."

If pressed, some of them might insist that it's white people who are being oppressed, not anyone else.

But that's it.

We're not talking about bright people here. There are no teachable moments.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. I'm pretty sure teh science is still 'out' on whether anyone is 'born racist' ...
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jul 2019

I'd be willing to wager that at least in some cases, there are children born with at minimum a proclivity towards racism.

I really don't believe there's ANY trait in humanity that's 100% environmental, and conversely I believe genes, if anything, play a larger role in 'how we turn out' ... than what we currently understand.

Why would I believe (which I do) that some people are born gay ... for example ... but reject outright the notion that some are born racist? Doesn't make sense to me, frankly.

Just because we see lots of little kids playing with one another of different races, apparently oblivious to the differences in skin tone (the most commonly-cited bit of anecdotal evidence from what I've seen) ... doesn't mean nobody is born to grow up to be a racist.

For the record, I think being liberal or conservative is predominantly genetic as well.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
5. They shouldn't go...might not be safe.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jul 2019

They’re going to be outnumbered, there’s liquor involved, and they’re in the back of beyond. Guns?
Probably, who knows.
Not a good situation in which to confront a largish group of racists.

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