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BREAKING: Nude photos of underage girls found in Epstein residence (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2019 OP
Those will be additional and new charges jberryhill Jul 2019 #1
Additional new charges- the photos? Blueplanet Jul 2019 #29
The photos are not related to the prior offense jberryhill Jul 2019 #32
Thank you Blueplanet Jul 2019 #37
What a pervert! at140 Jul 2019 #2
Bikers! infullview Jul 2019 #31
True, perhaps saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #54
MS 13, ABs, Mexican Mafia, or any prison gang Doctor Howard Jul 2019 #77
Kiddie porn can get you put away for quite awhile. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3
He's facing 45 years already malaise Jul 2019 #7
He is rich, he will get 9 days in a country club prison, if he doesn't get pardoned first. Meadowoak Jul 2019 #41
white collar crimes bdamomma Jul 2019 #45
child pornography is not a white collar crime mucifer Jul 2019 #69
true bdamomma Jul 2019 #73
I don't think this will be that easy. yardwork Jul 2019 #71
Probably his only hope to getting out sometime is ratting out everyone in this sick network. Mystery sage Jul 2019 #9
Federal charges - Pardon is his ticket..... getagrip_already Jul 2019 #34
Trump can't afford to pardon Epstein jmowreader Jul 2019 #78
sure he can... getagrip_already Jul 2019 #80
Acosta let this loose to pick up right where he left off it seems. Thomas Hurt Jul 2019 #4
Makes me wonder if Acosta might have been involved in it. TruckFump Jul 2019 #19
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Jul 2019 #24
Money. Epstein has a ton of it, and people with tons of money The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #26
And it is time to show these despicable characters that their money doesn't do any good... SWBTATTReg Jul 2019 #30
Bankrupt those SOB's, saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #55
Yeah O, I just figured this out a little bit ago and my (dumbass) head exploded!!! Epstein Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #66
These scumbags do not consider anyone outside of their own circles malaise Jul 2019 #59
That "good family" faux justification BullShit... TruckFump Jul 2019 #60
EXACTLY, Thomas - any girl or boy who was raped since the Acosta deal went down was a direct victim Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #52
And he was given a Cabinet position malaise Jul 2019 #61
He was indeed, malaise, but I just now thought, wait, SURELY Epstein made Acosta a very rich man Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #62
Follow the money malaise Jul 2019 #65
Animals leave tracks. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #5
Remember Weiner was rightly dealt with harshly so this guy deserves so much more BSdetect Jul 2019 #6
Understatement of the Year! Brainfodder Jul 2019 #63
So Trump has publicly admitted to knowing Epstein and that he liked "little girls" Botany Jul 2019 #8
Trump could be filmed doing anything to or with anyone and he would lose no support Eliot Rosewater Jul 2019 #10
and his support is strongest among Christian evangelicals too Botany Jul 2019 #11
You know why the Evangelical Christian love Trump? Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #43
Every time I hear about how Trump won the election and or is running for re-election ... Botany Jul 2019 #48
I know, it's not going to be easy Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #58
Everyone needs to vote bdamomma Jul 2019 #67
He won't lose his base, but he'll lose independents. bearsfootball516 Jul 2019 #12
From this post to the ears of the gawds of the electorate! TruckFump Jul 2019 #20
What a surprise! MineralMan Jul 2019 #13
Chances are, he fell for what every criminal does.... Xolodno Jul 2019 #15
Yes, I suppose that's true. MineralMan Jul 2019 #16
He probably thought he was safe. davsand Jul 2019 #21
I think he, like 55, believes his connections and money AJT Jul 2019 #27
Holy strict liability, Batman! Recursion Jul 2019 #14
Hope Epstein'stash of underaged girls includes photos with other PufPuf23 Jul 2019 #17
AMEN AND AMEN!!! These sick bastards love to hurt children uponit7771 Jul 2019 #23
Yeah but why? Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #46
Seems we have a lot of them to give it they're brown skin uponit7771 Jul 2019 #47
Which victims were brown? 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #51
OMFG!!!!!!! TruckFump Jul 2019 #18
Was one of them from Russia around the time red Don visited a certain hotel uponit7771 Jul 2019 #22
UPDATE: "Hundreds, perhaps thousands" of photos... brooklynite Jul 2019 #25
Ewwwwwwwww JonAndKatePlusABird Jul 2019 #28
If you have ever read about prosecutions of pedophiles, Blue_true Jul 2019 #74
I guess SDNY will be amending the indictment at DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #35
"Labels". That's Epstein's blackmail file Recursion Jul 2019 #72
Are there photos of Ivanka? saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #33
What if there were more than just underage girls in the photos? Generic Brad Jul 2019 #36
Quelle Surprise! saidsimplesimon Jul 2019 #38
I hate it when my plot device for a work of fiction Mme. Defarge Jul 2019 #39
remember those young girls and babies bdamomma Jul 2019 #40
Ohhh, Trump providing more victims for his pedophile longings. Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #49
OUCH! That made me laugh though, so harsh and dark! Brainfodder Jul 2019 #64
What a sleaze ball. Close friend of Trump, so I hear! PatrickforO Jul 2019 #42
The US Secretary of Labor needs to resign in disgrace IronLionZion Jul 2019 #44
well, who is Maverick Claim? will need to wait for a news source. nt yaesu Jul 2019 #50
Video Cd's, VCD was invented in 1993. Photo CD in 1992. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #53
Sick fuck Rich fuck Blue Owl Jul 2019 #56
The one article that I read about him made him looks more like a sleazeball Blue_true Jul 2019 #75
Seems these rich bastards have Alwaysna Jul 2019 #57
That silver spoon bdamomma Jul 2019 #68
Epstein was born middleclass. Blue_true Jul 2019 #76
BREAKING: Child porn found in Epstein residence. Fixed it for you Arazi Jul 2019 #70
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #79

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
29. Additional new charges- the photos?
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jul 2019

jberryhill:

Will the confiscation of the photos result in new charges? The indictment (the version I read appears to be incomplete) dealt with incidents that occurred between 2002 and 2005; the time period covered by his Florida federal non-prosecution agreement.
What I'm asking is - can his defense claim double jeopardy? Or, will the photos be a part of new charges in which the defense cannot claim double jeopardy?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. The photos are not related to the prior offense
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:24 PM
Jul 2019

I'm not aware of him having been charged with the possession of such materials before.

Certainly, they were there in his place as of this weekend, so there's that.
 

Doctor Howard

(22 posts)
77. MS 13, ABs, Mexican Mafia, or any prison gang
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jul 2019

he wouldn't last long in the joint in general population.

Dire consequences for child molesters inside and I'm not talking about rape.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
3. Kiddie porn can get you put away for quite awhile.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:38 AM
Jul 2019

If this is a separate charge (or even if it isn't), ol' Jeff won't be seeing the light of day for a very long time. Probably never.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
73. true
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:46 PM
Jul 2019

thanks for the correction. but let's see if he pays for his crimes. These freaking guys feel like they can do anything cause they have money and power they can choke on it.

Mystery sage

(576 posts)
9. Probably his only hope to getting out sometime is ratting out everyone in this sick network.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jul 2019

And I bet they will find even more stuff by then.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
34. Federal charges - Pardon is his ticket.....
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:25 PM
Jul 2019

And he has the leverage to punch it.

Trump will just claim double jeopardy and fake evidence.

Case over.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
78. Trump can't afford to pardon Epstein
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 11:13 PM
Jul 2019

If he does, he can't plead the Fifth when the prosecution starts asking him about what he may or may not have done for Trump.

Trump knows this.

Trump likes people who can put him in jail to stay out of it themselves.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
80. sure he can...
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jul 2019

trump can pardon for that also..... "Any crime against the United States". No if's; no conditions.

Rules of law only work when people follow them.

The founders didn't want a king, so they made the next best thing. And it works as long as the rules get followed.

They established a flushing system, but the drain is clogged with mitch mcconnel and company.

"So what are you going to do about it?" will be their new mantra.

We need to knock that smirk off their faces. But there are difficulties if "we" follow the rules and" they" don't.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
19. Makes me wonder if Acosta might have been involved in it.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jul 2019

Why would ANY decent person look the other way...unless to save his or her own ass.

These were young children being horribly abused. There is more to this, iMO, than we know at the present time.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
26. Money. Epstein has a ton of it, and people with tons of money
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:03 PM
Jul 2019

can get away with damn near anything. Maybe it wasn't direct bribery, but that kind of money can buy a whole lot of influence.

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
30. And it is time to show these despicable characters that their money doesn't do any good...
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:19 PM
Jul 2019

when the evidence I'm sure is impeccable (otherwise I don't think the Feds would have moved in on him/cronies)...I'm hoping others caught in this dragnet are ID'ed and charged too. Trafficking is a whole different ball of wax too. Perhaps he'll understand one day the absolute seriousness of his crimes and start opening up about those crimes committed by others while he was observing ...

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
66. Yeah O, I just figured this out a little bit ago and my (dumbass) head exploded!!! Epstein
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jul 2019

BOUGHT Acosta and his little helpers, duh!!!!! Quite simple, really, and so very understandable...

As you say, maybe not directly, but some $$ by god went somewhere, and Lord willin, our intrepid investigators will get to the bottom of this judicial travesty.

(on the other hand, it doesn't look as if Epstein had any qualms about threatening people, so that's a possibility, but...hell, maybe a bit of both...)



malaise

(269,056 posts)
59. These scumbags do not consider anyone outside of their own circles
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jul 2019

worthy of justice or empathy. Didn't you hear the judge talking about the rapist who came from a good family.
Then there was the affluenza youth who killed a Hispanic family driving drunk - there are rules for them and rules for everyone else.
It's one sick joke that they parade as the party of law and order

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
60. That "good family" faux justification BullShit...
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jul 2019

...made me want to hurl.

If the perp had been a person of color, HS drop out, and was an orphan or had relatives with jackets, well...he would had probably gotten life!

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
52. EXACTLY, Thomas - any girl or boy who was raped since the Acosta deal went down was a direct victim
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 02:06 PM
Jul 2019

of the conscience actions of one ALEX FUCKING ACOSTA.

And I figured out this morning, HEY, Acosta didn’t pull off this deal by himself - he had helpers, enablers and people who looked the other way helping him make his dainty little arrangements for this Epstein fuckhead criminal.

So I hope Acosta and his enablers are all having the worst Monday of their lives here, because these finely-grinding wheels of justice are coming for you.

fuck you all

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
62. He was indeed, malaise, but I just now thought, wait, SURELY Epstein made Acosta a very rich man
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 03:26 PM
Jul 2019

back in 2008?? Acosta and his little helpers SURELY made a bundle of filthy Epstein $$ off the misery of all these young girls, right?

Well well, now I want to see the financials of Acosta AND his enablers who pulled off this travesty of a judicial/criminal fubar, starting in 2008, motherfuckers

Yep, follow that $$ baby

Botany

(70,516 posts)
8. So Trump has publicly admitted to knowing Epstein and that he liked "little girls"
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:49 AM
Jul 2019

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump, 2002

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
10. Trump could be filmed doing anything to or with anyone and he would lose no support
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:54 AM
Jul 2019

They support him BECAUSE he is a piece of shit, not in spite of it.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
11. and his support is strongest among Christian evangelicals too
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jul 2019

They know he is dirt just like Pat Robertson but at the end of the day he helps
'em get "God's way."

If Trump came out and admitted that he paid for abortions for his mistresses and I
doubt he would lose more that 1 or 2 points among his base.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
43. You know why the Evangelical Christian love Trump?
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jul 2019

The Russians reached out to them as well as the IRA when rigging the election for the mobster and his Slovenian sex worker. It's in the FBI report. Only goes to show you God and his money aren't soon parted.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
48. Every time I hear about how Trump won the election and or is running for re-election ...
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jul 2019

... I want to throw up.

Mueller Report

Russian massively interfered w/our elections

The Trump campaign welcomed the Russian help

Trump and company have worked non stop to block and or suppress any investigations
into or reports on the Russian "help" to Trump and other republicans in 2016.

Trump and Putin sat around laughing about Russian meddling in our elections too.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
58. I know, it's not going to be easy
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jul 2019

But we can overwhelm the cheat machine. It's how we got Obama as president and how we got the House back.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
20. From this post to the ears of the gawds of the electorate!
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jul 2019

Maybe it will take the obscenities associated with Epstein to have people totally and completely desert MFer45.

Sick, these people are soooo sick! Makes me ill...

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. What a surprise!
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jul 2019

Actually it is. A smart man would have gotten rid of those as soon as an investigation began. That he did not means that he is not smart at all, or he's thinking with his other, smaller head.

Now, there's another charge that can be leveled against him, perhaps even another federal charge.

I read yesterday that he had hidden video cameras, too. Now, to find the videos, which would seal the deal completely. And, if he kept the photos of underage girls, he probably kept the videos, as well.

Uff da!

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
15. Chances are, he fell for what every criminal does....
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jul 2019

....get sloppy.

A bank robber for the first time will almost never get caught. They are very cautious, cover their tracks, etc.

But when they do it enough times, they start getting lazy and think they won't ever get caught. Which in the end, leads to them getting caught.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
21. He probably thought he was safe.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jul 2019

It's possible that Epstein thought he was safe from prosecution (read as protected) due to his powerful friends/blackmail victims. Arrogance is another possibility. Hubris is a dangerous thing, and I'm kinda happy to see some of these guys get to face some justice. money can't always buy everything.


Laura

AJT

(5,240 posts)
27. I think he, like 55, believes his connections and money
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jul 2019

will allow him to get away with pretty much anything, and so far they have been right.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
46. Yeah but why?
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jul 2019

Look at all the rich white men Epstein pimped to. Even a prince in British royalty. The Guardian is calling it pedosadism. But why do these awful men need to abuse our children?

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
18. OMFG!!!!!!!
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jul 2019

IMO, anyone and everyone associated with this needs to pay and pay big.

What a sick, evil SOB. Figures he and Trump were buds.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
74. If you have ever read about prosecutions of pedophiles,
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:34 PM
Jul 2019

they love to keep photographic records. My guess is there are recording sonewhere.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
36. What if there were more than just underage girls in the photos?
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:31 PM
Jul 2019

If they also have identifiable people with the girls, it would be a blackmail treasure trove.

Mme. Defarge

(8,034 posts)
39. I hate it when my plot device for a work of fiction
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jul 2019

becomes a hot news story. Happened with my first manuscript when @me too started making headlines.

Fortunately, compared to knitting (yarn is expensive!), mystery writing is a cheap hobby in my case.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
40. remember those young girls and babies
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jul 2019

we were questioning being taken by ICE at the border, do you think Mr. Epstein had a stake in that???

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
64. OUCH! That made me laugh though, so harsh and dark!
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jul 2019

If the case, the red is positive the black is negative, use him for ground.

Or substitute something really awful!

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
42. What a sleaze ball. Close friend of Trump, so I hear!
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jul 2019

Might be some 5am toilet rage-tweets coming out soon.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
44. The US Secretary of Labor needs to resign in disgrace
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jul 2019

for his role in the lenient sentencing and coverup.

Trump's labor secretary, Alex Acosta, should resign over handling of sex-offender case
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/01/opinions/alex-acosta-epstein-opinion-reyes/index.html

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
75. The one article that I read about him made him looks more like a sleazeball
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:37 PM
Jul 2019

con artist than a self made rich person. My bet is when all this has boiled out, we will find that he was living high off of basically stolen money.

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
57. Seems these rich bastards have
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jul 2019

An attitude of entitlement. They expect to get what they want when they want it. Laws and morals don't apply to them because their riches make them "special". From the minute they're born their silver spoon is never empty.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
76. Epstein was born middleclass.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:40 PM
Jul 2019

And his "self-made wealth" may be a mirage. I think when this is all done, we will find out that he has been stealing money all along.

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