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Read this article from CNN, it explains it far better than I can. Department of Labor Secretary Alex Acosta is probably cooked too, and I am not an expert on cooking. I give you this link to show how much trouble this fellow is in. The article also infers that some of those other people (Epsteiin's friends and others) who partook in sex with the young women are also cooked. But that is too far in the future. One conclusion is that Epstein will probably never see the outside of a jail cell again. You be the judge of the rest of this article. from CNN:
written by Elie Honig
update 1:36pm ET, 7/8/19...article title:
The next big question about Jeffrey Epstein
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/opinions/epstein-trafficking-molesting-sdny-indictment-honig/index.html
(CNN) " Jeffrey Epstein dodged justice the first time he faced criminal charges for trafficking and molesting children, exploiting a combination of wealth, influence, vile attack-the-victim tactics and an incompetent prosecutor, then-US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida and current US Department of Labor Secretary Alex Acosta. This time, however, Epstein is likely cooked. He faces charges likely to keep him behind bars for the rest of his life. The famously aggressive and independent Southern District of New York (where I worked for eight-plus years) has indicted him on charges of running a sex trafficking ring in which he allegedly sexually abused dozens of girls. Neither SDNY nor a public spotlight will permit a hush-hush sweetheart deal like Epstein got in Florida. The big question is, as the SDNY takes down Epstein, who else will go with him?
When he first faced sex trafficking charges in Florida in 2007, Epstein skated. His powerhouse team of attorneys somehow worked with Acosta to craft an agreement that was staggeringly unjust. Epstein faced decades behind bars but Acosta let him go with a plea to two minor state-level charges (for which he was sentenced to 13 months behind bars but served most of it on work release). The deal also inexplicably immunized Epstein's co-conspirators. In 14-plus years as a prosecutor, I've never even heard of the concept of giving a free pass to a defendant's co-conspirators. Worse, as a federal judge ruled recently, Acosta violated the rights of Epstein's victims by entering into the sweetheart plea deal without notifying them first, as the law requires.
The New York indictment was unsealed Monday and details allegations that between 2002 and 2005, Epstein ran a trafficking outfit in which he paid hundreds of dollars to girls as young as 14 to have sex with him at his homes in New York and Florida and worked with employees and associates who would lure these girls there and paid some of them to recruit others for similar abuse. CNN has reached out to Epstein's lawyer for comment. In a press release, the US Attorney's office said, "Epstein created a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually exploit, often on a daily basis."
Things now look bleak for Epstein. Simply being charged by the SDNY is, in itself, a defendant's nightmare. According to Justice Department data, the conviction rate on federal charges is typically over 90%, and the conviction rate in federal human trafficking cases is even a tick higher than that." Much of the case likely will center on testimony from Epstein's victims. While Epstein's attorneys in Florida cowed Acosta in part through a vicious campaign to attack the victims, the SDNY needs to stand firm. I've done sex trafficking cases, including a trial based largely on the testimony of victims. In my experience, victims typically have no reason to lie, and juries can and will believe victims, particularly if their voices are supported by other evidence. Knowing the SDNY, they've likely got other corroborating evidence.-- perhaps phone records, financial documents, e-mails or texts or travel records -- to back up the victims.
........rest of article at link above
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)Its something disBarr would usually do.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)That's excellent news. He has deep connections with Epstein, so it was the right thing to do. Just not something I would have expected in these times.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)True Blue American
(17,986 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)After Trump kicks the crap out of Barr, maybe he will not recuse.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)He sure did!!!
OMG tRump will be having cows and shitting bricks and otherwise FREAKED THE FUCK OUT behind this news!!!!!!!
This days just getting better and better!!
BOOM ALL YOU CRIMINALLY INSANE MUTHAFUKKAHS
Lonestarblue
(10,012 posts)With under age girls. Cant wait to see how his perfect Christian hypocrites justify that.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Nothing but fronts for prosecution.
elevator48
(53 posts)This case is so explosive nobody will want anything to do with it. No pardon either. It would be an admission of guilt and render Epstien's 5th amendment rights moot. This is gonna be huge.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)But I would be okay with Individual #1 being identified as an unindicted person of interest.
Nay
(12,051 posts)these fucking perverts in the act. They all need to burn.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)True Blue American
(17,986 posts)I heard today that many more came out to accuse Epstein after his arrest.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)The seriousness of this op aside, that is a great line!
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)the effort alone will bring Epstein case right into forefront of congress for the whole world to analyze his connection to trump.
mobeau69
(11,145 posts)The deal he gave Epstein needs to be explained to trumpons. I think if explained slowly by someone like Mayor Pete they may have a low wattage light bulb come on.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)They pressed him a little in a hearing but seemed to drop it.
I have a bad feeling there is a lot of bipartisan skeletons about to be revealed about people in both parties if Epstein lives to see trial.
Nay
(12,051 posts)As always be prepared that this isn't just a republican scandal
zooks
(308 posts)malaise
(269,056 posts)It's going to blow wide open. Get your masks - the ReTHUG cesspool is about to stink up the place and the stench will make manure smell like Nina Ricci's best scents.
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)Like most crooks, his attitude is that.." no one will catch me. I have got it all covered." All the connections that Epstein had with the .."ReTHUG cesspool" will be..exposed ..Now one word is extremely important...in the last sentence....."All"
...All is not some, or a few. All is All. I like your quote: "...the stench will make manure smell like Nina Riccis best scents."
Who do you suppose is part of the....ALL?
malaise
(269,056 posts)They think they are untouchable
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)Nixon, Haldeman and Ehrlichman thought exactly the same thoughts. (I am untouchable) And those 3 were totally wrong.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)They got him in New York because he flew back from Europe. What an idiot! He must have thought the feds never look at the incoming passenger lists.
He could have flown into Toronto and driven across the border. They probably wouldn't have looked at Canadian passenger lists. But this guy is too cocky because he's been getting away with it for way too long.
All in all it's a good day for law enforcement.
Disaffected
(4,557 posts)Couldn't they arrest him anyway (after he re-entered the US)?
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)That would be double jeopardy, am I right? I'm not a lawyer but I'm guessing he's OK just about everywhere except the state of New York.
elevator48
(53 posts)There will be people from both sides and genders involved.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)Pull them all squirming into the sunshine and let the chips fall where they may.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)This is going to be ugly and all involved should have their actions see the light of day.
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)His Mum (QEII) will not be pleased.
Nay
(12,051 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)mobeau69
(11,145 posts)capable for international flights. They detailed that in the filing to the judge when they requested no bail. Surprised somebody didn't tip him off that the FBI was waiting.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Notify Barr!
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)mitch96
(13,912 posts)I hope your right and never underestimate a very wealthy man with connections in high places. All these guys are connected to each other. To prevent Epstein from squealing like a pig they will try to lessen his sentence like Acosta did...
I'll believe it when the sentence is read and the jail cell door closes...
paranoia proven by history..
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yaesu
(8,020 posts)Dan
(3,570 posts)zooks
(308 posts)zooks
(308 posts)the Council on Foreign Relations, the New York Academy of Sciences, and the Institute of International Education.
According to the following 2011 VF article, he has friends in the highest places, this is just a snip
[As of 2011] His current fan club extends to Cayne, Henry Rosovsky, the former dean of Harvards Faculty of Arts and Sciences, and Larry Summers, Harvards current president. Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says, Im on my 20th book
. The only person outside of my immediate family that I send drafts to is Jeffrey. Real-estate developer and philanthropist Marshall Rose, who has worked with Epstein on projects in New Albany, Ohio, for Wexner, says, He digests and decodes the information very rapidly, which is to me terrific because we have shorter meetings.
Also on the list of admirers are former senator George Mitchell and a gaggle of distinguished scientists, most of whom Epstein has helped fund in recent years. They include Nobel Prize winners Gerald Edelman and Murray Gell-Mann, and mathematical biologist Martin Nowak. When these men describe Epstein, they talk about energy and curiosity, as well as a love for theoretical physics that they dont ordinarily find in laymen. Gell-Mann rather sweetly mentions that there are always pretty ladies around when he goes to dinner chez Epstein, and hes under the impression that Epsteins clients include the Queen of England. Both Nowak and Dershowitz were thrilled to find themselves shaking the hand of a man named Andrew in Epsteins house. Andrew turned out to be Prince Andrew, who subsequently arranged to sit in the back of Dershowitzs law class.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303
tblue37
(65,408 posts)True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Acosta, corrupt to the core.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)How many times have we been to these places only for nothing?
bucolic_frolic
(43,188 posts)you just wonder when, if, how one of these cases will link them all together. I think the answer is that Trump is using gatekeepers such as Barr, McConnell, or just sheer confusion over all the corruption to block progress.
Who has the power to carry it out? SDNY. But Trump appointed US Attorney Berman there.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Dozens. Just fill in the blank with a name.
Ive seen the orange buffoons name there many, many times.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)that had my hopes way up and all that fizzled out.
bucolic_frolic
(43,188 posts)for the time being, but some of the individuals overlap.
Are there still cases handed off to SDNY by OSC, or don't we know yet?
elias7
(4,008 posts)They were all just kids, just locker room talk...
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)especially any powerful famous folks who don't want us to know.
Karadeniz
(22,537 posts)onetexan
(13,043 posts)Pardon him.
sandensea
(21,639 posts)Or of accidentally shooting himself in the head. Twice.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)I don't want Jeffey to be a sacrificial lamb while the rest of the slime go unpunished.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)Jim Acosta, CNN reporter.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)but he has enough money to buy top notch lawyers that can get anything delayed. After November 2020, he's in line for a pardon, no matter how the election goes.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)meadowlander
(4,399 posts)or is that just wishful thinking?