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malaise

(269,063 posts) Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:08 PM Jul 2019

New Subpoenas from the Constitutional Accountability Center, led by Sen. Richard Blumenthal

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/08/politics/trump-organization-subpoena/index.html

Congressional Democrats have issued subpoenas to the Trump Organization and other Trump businesses tied to a lawsuit accusing President Donald Trump of profiting from foreign governments in violation of the Constitution, but the Justice Department is now asking an appeals court to step in and block the move.

Democrats sent more than three-dozen subpoenas, demanding a response by July 29, seeking to collect evidence about the President's financial records, after a federal judge ruled last month that Democrats could proceed with the legal discovery process in their lawsuit.
But the Justice Department, defending Trump in his presidential capacity, has requested that an appeals court Monday overrule the lower court's decision and prevent the subpoenas from going forward. If the Democratic members of Congress collected evidence in the emoluments lawsuit, DOJ wrote, Trump "is likely to suffer irreparable injury" because of "intrusive discovery into his personal finances based on the public office he holds."
The escalating court fight represents a new front in Democrats' quest to obtain the President's financial records, a battle that's now playing out across multiple congressional committees and judicial jurisdictions.
The new subpoenas come from the Constitutional Accountability Center, which is representing a group of House and Senate Democrats led by Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York, who are alleging Trump is violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

Barr must be impeached

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New Subpoenas from the Constitutional Accountability Center, led by Sen. Richard Blumenthal (Original Post) malaise Jul 2019 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #1

He behaves as if he's being blackmailed Generic Brad Jul 2019 #11

Yeah. It kind of makes some things make sense suddenly. lunatica Jul 2019 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #16

The DOJ has become pro drump BSdetect Jul 2019 #2

Look at that last sentence. Translation:Congress is only investigating trump because he Karadeniz Jul 2019 #3

Not weird malaise Jul 2019 #6

DOJ is Trump's goffer. triron Jul 2019 #12

K&R alwaysinasnit Jul 2019 #4

tRump supposedly separated himself from Trump Org so can be no claim Presidential duties interfere. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #5

The key word here malaise Jul 2019 #7

I can fix this. He can resign or be impeached. sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #8

"Intrusive discovery into his personal finances" CloudWatcher Jul 2019 #9

Having enjoyed the probes of discovery, I hope dump/barr/pence/mcturtle all endure the same. erronis Jul 2019 #13

When their excuses start to get ultra ridiculous you know lunatica Jul 2019 #17

Or, he could done what a non-grifter president would have done, Volaris Jul 2019 #19

it's high time he dweller Jul 2019 #10

from now on the justice department will be referred to as the obstruction department. nt yaesu Jul 2019 #14

Barr and the dotard...co-dictators Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #18

Response to malaise (Original post)

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Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)

11. He behaves as if he's being blackmailed

Reply to Chin music (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:38 PM

Jul 2019

Makes me wonder if he has an affiliation with Epstein somewhere along the way.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)

15. Yeah. It kind of makes some things make sense suddenly.

Reply to Generic Brad (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:56 PM

Jul 2019

Blackmail. Or the fear of being blackmailed. I’m thinking of the GOP, the Senate, etc.

Response to Generic Brad (Reply #11)

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BSdetect

(8,998 posts)

2. The DOJ has become pro drump

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:20 PM

Jul 2019

Karadeniz

(22,539 posts)

3. Look at that last sentence. Translation:Congress is only investigating trump because he

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:32 PM

Jul 2019

Happens to be president. Well, duh!!!! That's their job, to protect us from money grubbing tyrants. So the DoJ position is that congressional oversight should not occur if it might embarrass the subject of the investigation. Weird.

malaise

(269,063 posts)

6. Not weird

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:09 PM

Jul 2019

venal and corrupt.

triron

(22,007 posts)

12. DOJ is Trump's goffer.

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:44 PM

Jul 2019

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)

4. K&R

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:46 PM

Jul 2019

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)

5. tRump supposedly separated himself from Trump Org so can be no claim Presidential duties interfere.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:59 PM

Jul 2019

(that's the usual justification provided re not indicting a sitting President)

malaise

(269,063 posts)

7. The key word here

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:09 PM

Jul 2019

supposedly

sinkingfeeling

(51,461 posts)

8. I can fix this. He can resign or be impeached.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:23 PM

Jul 2019

CloudWatcher

(1,850 posts)

9. "Intrusive discovery into his personal finances"

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:32 PM

Jul 2019

Perhaps if Trump had actually read the Constitution before swearing to uphold it, he might have noticed that conforming to the Emoluments Clause requires that Congress be given 'intrusive discovery into his personal finances'. Otherwise how could they possibly do their job?

It's stunning that the DOJ is fighting this; Barr is an embarrassment.

erronis

(15,303 posts)

13. Having enjoyed the probes of discovery, I hope dump/barr/pence/mcturtle all endure the same.

Reply to CloudWatcher (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:48 PM

Jul 2019

In legalese: The Steel Stallion.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)

17. When their excuses start to get ultra ridiculous you know

Reply to CloudWatcher (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:01 PM

Jul 2019

they’re scrambling like crazy.

I’m also thinking of Trump trying to claim the conditions he’s forcing on children in his concentration camps are so much better than the conditions in their native countries. Therefore, in his defective mind, they are so much better off!!

Volaris

(10,272 posts)

19. Or, he could done what a non-grifter president would have done,

Reply to CloudWatcher (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:58 PM

Jul 2019

And put all of his business interests into a truly blind trust, and taken the money on the back end.

That he didn't, isn't congress's fault. He can fuck right off.