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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:24 AM Jul 2019

Patience is wearing thin

The Democrats job is oversight of this present regime in the White House. As much as anything, this is why they were elected in the last election.

The people paid to have Robert Mueller investigate the Russians and whether there were any connections with this White House and they deserve to hear from Mr Mueller just what he found? Yes, he could put it in a book but most people do not read such a document. They need to hear it from the horse's mouth.

The people were expecting to hear from Mr Mueller this coming Wednesday but for some reason, it was postponed until a week later? One can't help but wonder if the people will ever hear from Mr Mueller? What are they trying to hide?

Beware those that are afraid of the truth. They are even afraid of the possibility of the truth.

But, right now, a lot of people are disappointed and they want answers.

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Patience is wearing thin (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2019 OP
I love how Mueller said all his answers are already in the report, nothing more to add Blues Heron Jul 2019 #1
I think the people have a right to know if he was pressured to end the investigation. kentuck Jul 2019 #2
👍 sprinkleeninow Jul 2019 #27
+1 myohmy2 Jul 2019 #3
Very very true. nt Ferrets are Cool Jul 2019 #4
It's Congress as a whole charged with providing oversight Ohioboy Jul 2019 #5
Yes..and history will remember we didn't stand up Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #7
How so? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #11
Are there grounds to impeach Trump? watoos Jul 2019 #14
Has all the evidence been examined? Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #17
Are you asking about individual 1? watoos Jul 2019 #21
Just because Republicans do something Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #24
You said "Democrats need to uphold the laws and procedures or we will truly become Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #31
Maybe we are Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #32
What we "need" and want isn't working. There are already fractures. Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #34
Which is why Dems shouldn't make it worse Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #35
Been 100% off the grid on vacation. Who postponed? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #6
Mueller negotiated a deal with Committees, or vice versa... kentuck Jul 2019 #8
Has his reasoning been made public? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #9
It was Congress's request Fiendish Thingy Jul 2019 #12
Hope Dems don't concentrate on process too much. When Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #10
I hope that Democrats come prepared, watoos Jul 2019 #16
sometimes I think House Reps and Senators NEVER watch the news or hear Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #29
Yes Sir, Magoo48 Jul 2019 #13
Rec. cwydro Jul 2019 #15
If you can do better you need to run for office Cary Jul 2019 #18
K&R. Impeachment inquiry should have been KPN Jul 2019 #19
Really people! I, (we) don't know all of the nuances of, should we or should we not impeach the SOB! usaf-vet Jul 2019 #20
+1 Confrontation is inevitable and best ASAP. Ponietz Jul 2019 #28
Mueller was a god here when it was thought he would bring down Trump, elocs Jul 2019 #22
No transparency and all the stonewalling, this can't end well. Brainfodder Jul 2019 #23
We Know Why The Delay DallasNE Jul 2019 #25
Call YOUR congresswo/man 202 224 3121 WhiteTara Jul 2019 #26
K & R Duppers Jul 2019 #30
It should be well known by now that both Republicans and Democrats wanted more time emmaverybo Jul 2019 #33

Blues Heron

(5,939 posts)
1. I love how Mueller said all his answers are already in the report, nothing more to add
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:37 AM
Jul 2019

Ahh, not exactly big man, you will be under oath, and you will answer ALL questions put to you by the people's representatives, including "did Barr shut you down prematurely."

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
2. I think the people have a right to know if he was pressured to end the investigation.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:39 AM
Jul 2019

He can answer or not answer.

Why were there so many connections and meetings with Russians??

Ohioboy

(3,243 posts)
5. It's Congress as a whole charged with providing oversight
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:56 AM
Jul 2019

That's the way it was designed. The reason it's not working is because Republicans are siding more with the executive branch instead of siding with The People. Republicans are willing to flush truth down the toilet for Trump, a wannabe dictator. History WILL remember these times.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. Are there grounds to impeach Trump?
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 09:33 AM
Jul 2019

Is impeachment an obligation or is it discretionary? I am of the camp that believes that when impeachment is warranted it isn't a choice it is an obligation.

I heard someone say on cable news yesterday and I don't know if it is true that Democrats have issued 80 subpoenas for witnesses and documents and have gotten zero responses. When people like Trump Jr. agreed to testify they set the terms of the testimony, the length the subject matter, behind closed doors with attorneys present. Yes, that may well be following the law and proper procedure to a road to nowhere.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
21. Are you asking about individual 1?
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:28 AM
Jul 2019

What if Trump were a Democrat? Would Republicans be holding impeachment hearings? They would create a special impeachment committee led by Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows and that Gaetz guy.

Trump has done so much that we know of to deserve impeachment and all we have seen is a redacted Mueller report. An impeachment inquiry is judicial in nature and being so it would get us the grand jury information where all of the good dirt is re: the Trump crime family.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
24. Just because Republicans do something
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:48 AM
Jul 2019

is not a good reason for Democrats to do the same. Republicans only care about power and disregard the law and proper procedure. Democrats need to uphold the laws and procedures or we will truly become a banana republic.

BTW An impeachment inquiry is not judicial in nature. Judicial procedures are in the province of that branch of government. An impeachment inquiry is still a function of the legislative branch.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
31. You said "Democrats need to uphold the laws and procedures or we will truly become
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jul 2019

a banana republic."

We ARE closer than you think to a banana republic. If we continue down this path with our current "strategy", individual 1 and the repubs gain more power, destroy our institutions, put kids in cages, etc. etc. etc.

The process of Impeachment would uphold and respect the laws and procedures.


Meanwhile, our leadership is putting party over country while crossing our fingers for 2020. Weak...

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
8. Mueller negotiated a deal with Committees, or vice versa...
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:59 AM
Jul 2019

To postpone his scheduled hearing until a week later.

He is under subpoena.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,651 posts)
12. It was Congress's request
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 09:27 AM
Jul 2019

The junior members wanted enough time to ask questions. (New sessions will be longer)

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Hope Dems don't concentrate on process too much. When
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 09:03 AM
Jul 2019

He does testify...they need to turn this into a quasi impeachment hearing..since Pelosi won't agree to real impeachment. Simple and succinct as possible.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
16. I hope that Democrats come prepared,
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jul 2019

Mueller is tight lipped and will not offer information. This hearing is all about how Democrats get the truth out of Mueller. We don't need grandstanding or repeating the same questions. Honestly, Democrats need to rehearse this, need to follow a game plan. I wish we had 10 AOC's questioning Mueller. Democrats better not screw this up.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. sometimes I think House Reps and Senators NEVER watch the news or hear
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jul 2019

commentators/analysts. Some of them are just so savvy and wise. I heard one say to Blitzer that the committees need to pick out an handful of expert questioners and really plan how to go about this. It is not a time for every single person to get their moment on stage. And, more importantly, LET HIM TALK. Don't get bogged down in minutia. Sample question: "Please, explain ALL the incidents of obstruction of justice for the american public". Let the people hear a full explanation. Let the questions be open ended.

Then, Blitzer interviewed Schiff and was asked about this. He didn't seem to grasp and said, well it was up to the committee how to do this and they hadn't talked about it.

YES WATOOS !! Practice !!

Magoo48

(4,720 posts)
13. Yes Sir,
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 09:27 AM
Jul 2019

Perhaps, a little less oversight on newly elected members and a sharper focus on the information we the people paid for is in order.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
19. K&R. Impeachment inquiry should have been
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jul 2019

announced immediately after Mueller made his public statement about the investigation back in May where he essentially said: everything I have to say is in the report; I have nothing to add to that; I will not be saying any more. It has now been nearly two months since Mueller made that public statement and 4 months since the report was issued.


usaf-vet

(6,200 posts)
20. Really people! I, (we) don't know all of the nuances of, should we or should we not impeach the SOB!
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:26 AM
Jul 2019

... but I will tell you we will be judged by the outcome of this historical moment.

If tRump and his band of con men and women are never called to answer for the damage they are doing to this country we the opposing party will be held in contempt for having done little or nothing.

Damn it stop playing with the Marcus of Queensberry rules, "let's be collegial and understanding", while your, our opponent fights back with guerilla tactics of go for the kill and "take no prisoners".

If you, we don't show some backbone and stand up with every fiber of our being will be complicit in the complete and total destruction of the rules of law and the Constitutional rights and privileges we have all long understood to be ours as Americans.

tRump and his band of grifters are playing a "run out the clock" defense. And it appears they are being successful day in and day out.





Ponietz

(3,004 posts)
28. +1 Confrontation is inevitable and best ASAP.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 02:15 PM
Jul 2019

“[ ] pulled off a series of brilliant bluffs against larger and stronger powers who lacked the will to confront him. —from a video documentary posted this morning here on DU. History is repeating itself.

elocs

(22,597 posts)
22. Mueller was a god here when it was thought he would bring down Trump,
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:29 AM
Jul 2019

but he had feet of clay after his report came out.
If anyone thinks that his appearance before Congress will result in anything much different, you're setting yourself up for disappointment...again. But there are a lot of people that if they were not disappointed they couldn't be sure if they were alive or not.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
23. No transparency and all the stonewalling, this can't end well.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:32 AM
Jul 2019


Meanwhile, alleged high crimes and misdemeanors all in plain sight?

Republicans cannot be counted on for even spelling transparency?

Protecting this obvious super grifting pussy whatevering douchebag just to keep power to make liberals cry? [Rupert!]

Our safety put in unnecessary peril should be pissing us off more regardless of these silly party affiliations.



DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
25. We Know Why The Delay
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jul 2019

It is to buy time for Barr to find something, anything that might suggest that the wiretap of the Trump staffer was improper making everything that followed improper. So far the timeline makes it proper so they are attempting to show that the timeline on the pee tape is wrong so it can be used as the basis for the wiretap and not the conversation in London to the Australian Ambassador to the UK. Obviously, they don't have that yet so this 1 week delay was agreed to. Barr will cobble something together but will it stand up under scrutiny. Probably not.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
33. It should be well known by now that both Republicans and Democrats wanted more time
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:15 PM
Jul 2019

to question Mueller than had been scheduled. They wanted to cover more topics. And to do this, they felt th3need for more time to prepare.

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