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real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:31 PM Jul 2019

U.S. Citizens are also detained at Trump "concentration camps."

ICE Is Dangerously Inaccurate
Even American citizens are not immune from immigration raids.
By Darlena Cunha
July 12, 2019

Ms. Nuetzi is a cheerful white woman who spent her childhood in Ocala, Fla., and has been an elementary school secretary in Gainesville for 20 years. In 2016, she voted for Donald Trump, and was ecstatic when he won. A year later, her driver’s license expired.

Ms. Nuetzi went to the motor vehicles agency to get a new one, and for the first time in her life, officials did not accept her birth certificate...

“I called to get a new passport, and they told me to go to immigration,” Ms. Nuetzi said. “But why would I go to immigration? I’m not an immigrant. Then I called Homeland Security and the woman on the other end of the line started laughing at me.”

It proved nearly impossible for Ms. Nuetzi to extract herself from the ICE machine.

Davino Watson is a U.S. citizen who was 23 years old when ICE held him for more than three years. A New Yorker, he was eventually dropped off in Alabama with no explanation and no money. After he was released, Mr. Watson filed a complaint and a court awarded him compensation in 2016. The next year, an appeals court decided the statute of limitations for that complaint had expired while he was still in ICE custody.

more true stories by the New York Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/opinion/ice-raids.html

According to CBS News:

Who will be targeted in the expected ICE roundups of immigrant families?
BY CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ
JULY 13, 2019 / 9:07 AM / CBS NEWS

Will families be separated because of this operation? (ie ICE raids on Sunday 7/14/19)
Deportations can lead to family separations, as they have in the past. Roundups would not only affect undocumented immigrants with pending removal orders, but also so-called "mixed-status" families with members who are green card holders and U.S. citizens — mostly U.S.-born children.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-raids-who-will-be-targeted-expected-roundups-of-immigrant-families-2019-07-13/
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U.S. Citizens are also detained at Trump "concentration camps." (Original Post) real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 OP
So, first comment is that Doreen Jul 2019 #1
Papers please! Stonepounder Jul 2019 #2
Kind of like proving your dogs are purebred Doreen Jul 2019 #3
It's more like Hitler's rise to power, only Trump-Nazis are demonizing Hispanics... real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 #15
citizenship AND party affiliation required Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #18
Birth certificate may not be the person who is claiming it. LiberalArkie Jul 2019 #9
Or a DNA licence ? OnDoutside Jul 2019 #16
lets see trumps birth certificate... oh... uptrumps_but Jul 2019 #11
If he had to show his birth certificate Doreen Jul 2019 #12
Will we all have patches on our clothes to identify us? Lonestarblue Jul 2019 #14
it is practically already like that in areas where ICE is targeting families anarch Jul 2019 #17
And yet, that woman, Ms. Nuetzi, said she WILL vote for trump in 2020. Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #4
They don't get that they're wrong. dchill Jul 2019 #5
Read the O P, this woman IS an American citizen, as were her parents. Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #7
I read the OP. I was merely answering your question. dchill Jul 2019 #8
My experience in studying those suffering from Trump-nazism... real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 #13
The very last paragraph 😮🤭 Rowdyag Jul 2019 #6
His brand of sado-populism... Captain Zero Jul 2019 #10
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2019 #19

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
1. So, first comment is that
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:10 PM
Jul 2019

at some point if this administration stays in we will ALL be REQUIRED to carry our birth certificate at all Times.

Second comment, at some point they will not just target colored people. There are white people from countries that he hates now ( Germany and Canada ) and would like nothing better than get rid of them also.

I have a friend who's parents are from Germany and only his mother got nationalized while his father remained a German citizen. If our administration decided to twist things the way they have been they could claim my friend and his brother are anchor babies and do the same to them as to those already in the camps.

Some may think I am going to far in my thinking about this but there are many things we thought would never happen but they are happening now. I am afraid for ALL people of this country who are citizens but from another country or parents in the same situation as his parents.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
3. Kind of like proving your dogs are purebred
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:58 PM
Jul 2019

and from good lineage. Just sick for humans to have to do that.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
15. It's more like Hitler's rise to power, only Trump-Nazis are demonizing Hispanics...
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 06:56 AM
Jul 2019

Hitler targeted Jews, Gypsies and some other foreigners.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,403 posts)
18. citizenship AND party affiliation required
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 07:29 AM
Jul 2019

If you're not the right kind of people, off to the camps!

#NeverAgainIsNow

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
9. Birth certificate may not be the person who is claiming it.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:27 PM
Jul 2019

At some time people will be required to carry the "Real ID" license or a passport with them at all times.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
12. If he had to show his birth certificate
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:42 PM
Jul 2019

it would prove he was born in hell and the devil is his daddy and he just took over the family business.

Lonestarblue

(10,053 posts)
14. Will we all have patches on our clothes to identify us?
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jul 2019

Star of David, Muslim patch, Hispanic, Indian, Christian but not evangelical, black or brown immigrants, black or brown born here. Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. Only white evangelicals will not have to wear identifiers because they think of themselves as God’s chosen people who have the innate right to tell everyone else how to live. Identifying patches will make it so much easier for Trump’s gestapo to round up the undesirables and dump them in another country. Who cares if they’re US citizens!

This administration makes me so angry!

anarch

(6,535 posts)
17. it is practically already like that in areas where ICE is targeting families
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 07:12 AM
Jul 2019

Waiting outside the schools & job sites.

I am fairly obviously white-looking, but have it in the back of my mind that I could be stopped anyway, for no reason, and with no recourse (being "close enough" to the CBP "you have no 4th amendment rights" zone, and living in a mostly-Latinx neighborhood).

The irony of these formerly proud "no step on snek!," individual-rights-are-everything types being all gung-ho about a federal police force that can basically raid neighborhoods and search houses with no oversight, and with broad authority to just haul in whoever they want...well, it's some pretty heavy irony.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
7. Read the O P, this woman IS an American citizen, as were her parents.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jul 2019

This woman had her citizenship questioned, her life held in the balance by ICE, threatened with deportation, harassed by the feds, had to fight to have Immigration review her case that realized they had screwed up, and after all of that, all of the nightmares, all of the pain and uncertainty, she STILL wants to vote for this skid mark again.

If it weren't for trump, she would never have gone through ANY of this.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
13. My experience in studying those suffering from Trump-nazism...
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:16 PM
Jul 2019

Conversations with them indicate they tend to be racists and climate-change deniers, who believe that creeping socialism and liberal media are conspiring to destroy America. Those suffering from Trump-nazism, believe only Fox News, which remains entangled in controversy, because to dodge a large lawsuit, Faux News proved in court that they were an entertainment media, instead of a news reporting organization.

Many suffering from Trump-nazism also claim to be Christian, although they obtain most of their religious instruction from television evangelists or preachers, with a political agenda.

Captain Zero

(6,823 posts)
10. His brand of sado-populism...
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:28 PM
Jul 2019

Draws out the masochism in his supporters. Hit me again! They love it.

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