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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:02 PM Jul 2019

I have been spiffed and I'm pissed.

A spiff is an extra commission paid to retail sales people directly by the manufacturer. This started back in the 80s when mass marketers started offloading the salary costs of their sales staff to the manufacturers. Then they internalized it to high margin add on sales.

So, I go to a local brick and mortar store to buy a new custom computer. I had three criteria: Small footprint, streaming 24/7 and efiting large image files. I set the budget to $1500.

I left with the second largest case in the store, led lights on everything, a wi fi adapter that operated at 1/4 the speed of a $15 USB dongle and a "gamer's processor" for $2000 before tax. It did process files fast tho.

After taking it back twice to work on various issues I got management involved. Said I'd been spiffed and was exceedibgly unhappy. He turned me over to the assembly tech for a return/exchange. Techs aren't on commission and don't get spiffs.

I left with an off the shelf mini tower with a footprint 6x12 inches that operated at 200 Mbps and only slightly slower than the $2000 custom build. And a $1000 credit to my credit card and a $200 factory rebate AFTER paying for the assembly labor and a Windows disk that is useless because of a motherboard swap.

I spent almost 40 years as a sales professional and and am embarrassed at what passes for "retail sales" today. There is no added value to brick and mortar stores anymore, in fact it has become an extra cost to the detriment of the consumer.

Fuck em all. Go the way of all those buggy whip makers and make room for artisans. I'll be buying everything I can off the web after I do my own research.

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Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
4. I just bought a new computer -
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jul 2019

From a brick and mortar (albeit big box). I researched and watched prices at 3 different stores for about 2 months, and got just what I was looking for at about 60% of its standard list price when the store decided to discontinue the line.

If you want to shop at the local brick and mortar, I'd suggest shopping online to find a relatively standard price for the specs you want, then going to the brick and mortar and telling them exactly what you want, the price you know you can buy it for online (or via a big box store) and offering to pay slightly more than that to support a local business - but not double (like it sounds like you did). It doesn't have to be either or. Give the local guys the chance to match the online prices. But know what you want and not only what you are willing to pay, but what relatively standard retail prices are.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
5. That's the whole point of my rant. They bring NOTHING of value anymore.
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:56 PM
Jul 2019

If you/I have to do the research, educate ourselves and make the purchase decision BEFORE we get in the car, drive across town and describe in detail what we want to buy why the fuck should I/we support the brick and mortar infrastructure?

I only ask that they justify their existence with SOME value.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
6. Over the years I have found my local Best Buy
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:10 AM
Jul 2019

to be reliable for my tech needs. My local one has a woman who worked in the computer department for several years, and I bought more than one computer from her. Always happy with what I got. Recently she moved over to selling big screen TVs, and while I stop and chat with her a bit sometimes, I have zero interest in buying a TV. But were I to change my mind I'd happily spend time having her explain to me what my options are.

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
7. True.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:26 AM
Jul 2019

Although I'm still willing to support brick and mortar with slightly higher prices. Not that I always buy brick and mortar, but I do see the value of their existence,

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
8. When you buy a thirty thousand dollar automobile they make you pay extra for floormats
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 04:35 AM
Jul 2019

What day that I leave the house that I do not feel preyed upon in this corporate kleptocracy? It's like those Alaskan mosquitos that drive folks crazy. Even your bank steals from you these days. I can go to Walmart and get a prescription and eyeglasses cheaper off-plan than I can through any provider on my employer-based health plan.

Anyway, most days I curse Bill Gates name for making me spend most of my adult life learning a half-dozen now obsolete computer languages just to stay marketable. Bottom line though is I can build my own desktops. Truth is pretty much anyone can with a couple of days of prep work. If you're bright enough to put together IKEA, you can build a PC for half to two thirds of what you would pay otherwise.

You are abolutely correct. Do your research on any expensive purchase. If you want to buy a bicycle, don't just wander into an upscale bike store or you're not going to leave with what you want or what you wanted to pay. Know what you want and what it should cost before purchase time.

If they try to pull that gym membership pressure sales BS routine just walk and find another retailer.

BSdetect

(8,999 posts)
9. Yes, DIY building a PC. Its what I've done for most of the ones I use.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 06:53 AM
Jul 2019

The OP should not leave a PC running 24/7 IMO.

I've had one graphics card burn due to dust.

If that happens and you are not at home .....

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