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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:01 AM Jul 2019

S.E. Cupp Says Democratic Infighting Recalls Tea Party Insurgency: 'I Have Seen This Movie Before'


By Connor Mannion July 13th, 2019, 6:50 pm

CNN host S.E. Cupp said the ongoing tension between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and progressives like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez reminds her a lot of the rise of the Tea Party during the Barack Obama presidency.

“I have seen this movie before. It ends tragically,” Cupp said in the open of S.E. Cupp Unfiltered Saturday.

“The year was 2009 and growing American political movement called the Tea Party was catching hold. They were Republicans that were initially opposed to spending and the deficit,” she continued. “It eventually morphed into Republican infighting over, well, everything, producing a fringier, farther-right Republican Party and pushing moderates out the door.”

Cupp then argued this all eventually resulted in the presidency of Donald Trump and his takeover of the Republican Party. She then played a clip of Trump attacking former House Speaker Paul Ryan, warning “Democrats, if you are not careful this is your future.”

Cupp then said Democrats shouldn’t have their infighting devolve into a party split.

“Don’t make the same mistakes we did,” she said. “When the loudest voices in the room represent the fewest people, when majorities are steered to the farthest fringes, when moderates are blotted out by extremists that are shoving bold changes down the throats of all-Americans: beware, the end is nigh.”

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S.E. Cupp Says Democratic Infighting Recalls Tea Party Insurgency: 'I Have Seen This Movie Before' (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
"Sippy" should stick to Vogue-ing for the cameras. nt Atticus Jul 2019 #1
Wow! Great counter-point to her analysis, "sit down and shut up." Inspiring. NOT DonViejo Jul 2019 #2
I hope we are not at the point where we are looking to GOP shills for "inspiration". nt Atticus Jul 2019 #4
Ah yes, we wouldn't want to find ourselves in agreement with them... DonViejo Jul 2019 #6
I did not say I disagreed with her comment. I am just not eager to give respect to someone Atticus Jul 2019 #7
Just ignore the people who can't be objective when a Republican makes a statement that is UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #10
Except our "extremists" aren't dangerous assholes Turin_C3PO Jul 2019 #12
That's a rather sexist response Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #13
Only the ones who obviously shift their "profile" when the camera angle changes. nt Atticus Jul 2019 #21
Cupp has her stopped clock" moment DFW Jul 2019 #3
And yet, the Tea Party won, there are still many members causing greaat damage now. SharonAnn Jul 2019 #16
S.E. Cupp/RWNJ Says Democratic .......... stonecutter357 Jul 2019 #5
In the times that I watched her when she was on MSNBC, Blue_true Jul 2019 #15
Look! Another republican wringing her hands about Democratic infighting. GoCubsGo Jul 2019 #8
"Friendly" warnings reeking of "concern." Merlot Jul 2019 #9
Yep. These assholes helped enable Trump's election. GoCubsGo Jul 2019 #17
Actually, I see it differently. Blue_true Jul 2019 #19
I'm sorry that the majority of replies to your thread are the usual canned responses, it's so UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #11
Why would any Democrat take S.E. Cupp seriously? ConnorMarc Jul 2019 #14
I do. Blue_true Jul 2019 #20
They are not honest brokers Blue ConnorMarc Jul 2019 #23
Every point you made is valid. We are their friends of convenience. Blue_true Jul 2019 #24
I don't need lectures from right-wingers about "infighting." GuyNamedNathan Jul 2019 #18
Yes, her concern is duly noted gratuitous Jul 2019 #22

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
6. Ah yes, we wouldn't want to find ourselves in agreement with them...
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 09:24 AM
Jul 2019

Even if elected Democrats have said the same thing, it's important to tell Republican women to sit down and shut up. I wonder if the same standard applies to Republican women for choice.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
7. I did not say I disagreed with her comment. I am just not eager to give respect to someone
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 09:35 AM
Jul 2019

who on e introduced Trump at the "Faith and Freedom" breakfast---at his request.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
10. Just ignore the people who can't be objective when a Republican makes a statement that is
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jul 2019

correct. She is correct. We have the beginnings of our own tea party aka the latte party.

Turin_C3PO

(14,047 posts)
12. Except our "extremists" aren't dangerous assholes
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jul 2019

bent on destroying the country. It’s good to have debate between sections of the party, I just wish it wasn’t playing out in public, giving the Republicans ammunition.

DFW

(54,437 posts)
3. Cupp has her stopped clock" moment
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:24 AM
Jul 2019

This has to be THE first time I haven‘t disagreed vehemently with her.

SharonAnn

(13,778 posts)
16. And yet, the Tea Party won, there are still many members causing greaat damage now.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:36 PM
Jul 2019

People like Mike Mulvaney.
Many RW nutjob judges
They all support Trump
etc., etc.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. In the times that I watched her when she was on MSNBC,
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jul 2019

I saw her as somewhat of a gun nut, but more of the old style fiscally conservative, pro business republican. I never heard her give an opinion on hot button issues like abortion, LGBTQ rights and same sex marriage, being that she is youngish, my guess is that she is likely mostly ok with those changes.

The issue that I have with people like her, Meghan McCain and Meghan's late father is that when they had a chance to put an end to the nonsense that was taking place in their party, they chose to say nonsensical things instead of saying the direction their party was going was nuts. Now Trump owns her party and she has no recourse but to look longingly at democrats as the people that can help her get her party back.

GoCubsGo

(32,089 posts)
8. Look! Another republican wringing her hands about Democratic infighting.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jul 2019

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Hmmmmmm... Cupp and her ilk aren't worried about the Dems falling apart. They're drawing attention to it in hopes of attracting more Dems into the infighting. They're throwing gasoline on the fire under the guise of "warning" the Dems.

These people are not our friends.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
9. "Friendly" warnings reeking of "concern."
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:42 AM
Jul 2019

These people are not our friends, indeed. They may not like trumpft but they are secretly thrilled with all he's accoplishing for the republican party. In fact, he gives them cover, when he's gone they can say, ok, things back to normal now, and yet somehow they will proceed with all the same policies.

GoCubsGo

(32,089 posts)
17. Yep. These assholes helped enable Trump's election.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:38 PM
Jul 2019

They helped foment all of the hatred that got us to this point. Their Frankenstein's monster is out of control, and they're fixating on Democratic squabbles, instead? Cupp, Rick Wilson, and the rest need to clean up their own houses before they worry about those of others. But, they won't, because their own shit don't stink.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Actually, I see it differently.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jul 2019

People like her, Jennifer Rubin, George Will and a number of others, plus business republicans want us to help them get their party back. They actually want us to beat the crap out of the current Republican Party over and over until that forces change within that party. The last thing that they want is to see is us fracture and weaken ourselves.

The issue that I have with them is they threw gasoline on the fire that was building within their party starting with the Clinton Administration. I don't expect them to behave more sanely in the future if they get their party back.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
11. I'm sorry that the majority of replies to your thread are the usual canned responses, it's so
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jul 2019

fucking old and predictable.

 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
14. Why would any Democrat take S.E. Cupp seriously?
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jul 2019

Does anyone believes she wants to see Democrats succeed?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. I do.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 02:53 PM
Jul 2019

She wants her old party back, at least the romantic version of it that is in her head. A number of other republicans or former republicans seem to earnestly feel the same way. They need us to help them by trashing the current Republican Party at the polls, so they don't want to see us weaker, at least not until we act as their enforcer and give them their old party back.

 

ConnorMarc

(653 posts)
23. They are not honest brokers Blue
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 04:27 PM
Jul 2019

None of them are, from their leaders to their supporters.
Perhaps some of them are your friends and neighbors and even family members, but politically, they don't care about you or what you feel.
They only want to see their party in power, and they're willing to do and/or say anything to accomplish this.

This has been proven, time, and time, and time, and time again.
For decades now.

I only value their opinions as a base to know just how crazy and far gone they are.

That's it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. Every point you made is valid. We are their friends of convenience.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jul 2019

Once we have their party back to them, they will try to get rid of us.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Yes, her concern is duly noted
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 04:13 PM
Jul 2019

If the Justice Democrats were some stealth-funded cutout with the full-throated connivance of a constellation of media outlets, including several 24-7 broadcast and cable channels, then she might have a point. As itis, this sounds like nothing so much as buyer's sort-of remorse. Unimpressed with Cupp's crocodile concern.

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