Do not see any response from the other 3, except for that one vote. That probably taught the other 3. AOC seems to be the only one still complaining! Am I wrong?

The worst part is that I have seen her in action in the hearings. She is good and well prepared. She now needs to learn to stay off twitter. That isn’t helping Trump much either now. He is just bore some and stale.

AOC is a brilliant person with all the makings of a great states-person, BUT I agree that she's too quick on the Twitter-fingers.

You can be quite passionate and vocal in stating your own beliefs and agenda. Doesn't mean you have to "dis" everyone that might hold another viewpoint.
(and agreed. while not totally enamored, this woman has a LOT of talent. she COULD be a star ..)

though. Even a hostile anti-Democratic extremist wouldn't genuinely believe our house caucus is "new Southern Democrats" who "certainly seem hell bent to do to black and brown people today what the old Southern Democrats did in the 40s." That was a grenade he tossed into the house, followed by others.

Because her colleagues have been recommending she fire him? And probably others? JD's running her congressional office. If their plan is to deliberately trying to destroy her relationship with fellow Democrats and isolate her from their influence and support, they're succeeding. The caucus has now actually formally rebuked him for attacking Sharice Davids. A staff employee!

I'm thinking that if she has the makings of of a statesman, she can't be driving this. She certainly got involved with some ruthless extremists, and my theory is she's now riding the tiger. Pelosi must have a very good idea by now of just what Ocasio herself is and could, or couldn't, be, though. If she needs rescuing from the tiger, her party could probably do it.

I like that analysis. I have been trying (perhaps erroneously) to not attribute all of his statements to her. He seems deliberately offensive. I think SHE has some actual interest in doing the job. Have also been trying to allow some slack for "freshman mistakes." But all of this stuff makes for a REAL easy target for the opposition -- and a gleeful media. Now does she have the ability to learn from mistakes -- or does she double down on a toxic message?

and team probably have her very well pegged by now because it is their job after all and they're very experienced at it. Every 2 years brings them new potential assets to identify and make the most of and new problems to neutralize. From what I've seen of her, and in spite of the role she chose to play in 2016, I have real hope that Ocasio's maturing into the former and that they are able to help free her from the problem determined keep ownership.

Too bad the immature moments become so big.

She will have to grow up at some point, and eventually
I think she will.

"Let's keep this in mind. Do you think Nancy Pelosi wanted to pass a half-assed bill? No."

"I have a problem with how all these young women were starting out, when they were accusing older Democrats like myself of not getting done what needed to be done in the country. And started saying, 'You haven't done this, you haven't done that.' When you start out telling people they don't know what they're doing and get out of the way, it's annoying to people. I don't think that has to do with color. I think it's more ... BS."

I hate the "why haven't Democrats stopped ____ ?" thing and the "Democrats could pass progressive legislation if they just fight hard enough." Al Franken's "Lion of the Senate" describes how government works, it's excellent. Everyone should read it.

Women and minorities her entire life. Aoc would do well to do as she and others have said... get off twitter and start listening!! She doesn’t seem to realize that Speaker Pelosi has her best interest at heart -unlike that person she put in charge... running around wearing a nazi collaborator T-shirt and calling out congress woman Sherice Davids as if she were a gop collaborator

I see a crash and burn coming!!

"I came to Congress fighting with the old establishment but within months I came to realize that Pelosi can work for us even as she works to protect moderates. I learned quickly that I could not fall on every sword."

This is not that hard.

the View recently?

Of course, Nancy didn't.. she got what she could.. I hate it when anyone zeros in on a whine that has nothing to do with the reality of what actually happened. Like Chakabarti..

Link to tweet

".. Please Remember you're on the Shoulders of a whole bunch of people who came before you!.. "

Wow! McCain.. ".. let's not forget it was Pelosi who delivered Midterms.." ".. it was her leadership.. " ..

And, before anyone tries to "kill the messenger" on what McCain said.. I've been saying the same thing.

Mahalo, betsuni!

Thank,you, Whoopi, for pointing that out. (Barbara Boxer was also in the California delegation all those years, but she is retired now.)

bringing that on board, Hekate.. very important!

Big book, but I read every word. To think his career was cut short by one lying right winger. I know Al gave her plenty of pushes in her career!

Lee Ann who now. Anyone ever hear of her? All for a right wing radio job.

the race card as did Chakrabarti.

This article didn't age well.

timeless.

Mahalo cha!!

"Not all of our colleagues are interested in legislating collaboratively and some of them may not be interested in legislating."

For Justice Democrats it's not about policy.

That idiocy failed, too. Who is left ? Jordan, Scalise, Meadows, McCarthy ? They are now yipping, toothless fools.

It's interesting how they brought this on themselves and Chakrabarti only added more fuel to the fire with his insulting tweets at Dems.

This is AOC's COS..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

To TV and the word,” Defensive,” was used. She remarked that is how she feels when she hears race baiting because most of us are long past racism but the attacks keep coming.

All of those women are not old enough to remember the civil rights fight because it was 50 years ago and to still use race for every perceived slight is nonsense to those really in the fight.

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It's just mind-blowing for anyone in the Dem Party to say that to Nancy.. I don't know how she thought it would help her.. because the Law of Unintended Consequences seemed to kick in rather rapidly.

I've seen people on twitter who were always praishing her work who have definitely sided with Nancy Pelosi now.

Not sure what the point is attacking Pelosi except the fact the media went after her like a dof after a bone for their couple of minutes on TV.

The same reason they breathlessly, endlessly sow Trump tweets over and over. Just the way they lied us into endless war, helped elect Trump.

Coming back from the pool I turned on Morning Joe. They were actually discussing what has happened to Evangelicals. How they have allowed anger, hate and fear to over rule anything they used to believe.

The good news is the young are not buying it. I am seeing that in my own family. Funny how the younger generation thinks like the older generation that has any sense about which party helps the middle.

Sorry for the Sermon, I do have a tendency to do that!

ever post?

Thanks for kicking the thread, tho.

She had the numbers

Pelosi also has the experience to know how to lead.