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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:55 AM Jul 2019

White security guard tries to arrest African-American for "being-a-police-officer-while-black".

https://www.theroot.com/watch-white-security-guard-pulls-gun-on-black-cop-in-f-1836356876

An Ohio police officer in full uniform, you know, the uniform that clearly identifies him as a police officer and as such gives him reason to have a radio, taser, and gun, faced some scary and tense moments when a security guard pulled a gun on him and tried to arrest the POLICE OFFICER for carrying a gun.

Lucas County Sheriff’s deputy Alan Gaston stopped by a local IRS office on May 31 to ask a question about a letter he received. I don’t know if I mentioned this earlier but Gaston was in full uniform including his police badge and belt and his police-issued holster that housed his police-issued gun.

...

Gaston told ABC 13 that Blart asked him to leave his gun in his car and Gaston informed the fake cop that as a real cop he can’t do that. That’s when Blart drew his weapon and the conversation ended. Gaston left the office.

“Basically preparing myself to be shot at that moment. Bracing for a shot in my back,” Gaston told the news station.

Luckily for Gaston, the entire debacle was caught on tape. Blart can be seen following the actual cop into the hallway with his gun drawn trying to take Gaston into custody.


“There’s really no way to know how you’re going to act when there’s a gun pointed at you and when you think you’re going to lose your life,” said Gaston.

Gaston, who works with the police department as a defensive tactics instructor, says that he kept trying to de-escalate the situation by walking away.

And here is where this already bizarre case takes an even more bizarre turn. Someone called the police and said that there is a man with a gun that he won’t relinquish but conveniently forgot to mention that the man with the gun is a uniformed deputy sheriff!

...

Eklund is facing one charge of aggravated menacing and is set to be in court next week.



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White security guard tries to arrest African-American for "being-a-police-officer-while-black". (Original Post) DetlefK Jul 2019 OP
Has the security guard been arrested yet? malaise Jul 2019 #1
Yes. DetlefK Jul 2019 #2
Read the article at link malaise Jul 2019 #4
So tired of this shit.. HipChick Jul 2019 #5
I can't begin to process this one malaise Jul 2019 #6
Nope, that's just a convenient "blame the victim" excuse Merlot Jul 2019 #26
TAF? irisblue Jul 2019 #3
Good malaise Jul 2019 #7
Clarifying the OP: Eklund and Blart refer to the same person. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2019 #8
Yes, that wasn't clear at first DFW Jul 2019 #12
I don't think Eklund goes by that name, so much as it was hung on him by the article writer JHB Jul 2019 #14
2009 movie. Paul Blart: Mall Cop irisblue Jul 2019 #17
Never heard of it but that explains much! n/t DFW Jul 2019 #19
The "Blart" I'm guessing is a sly reference to that movie, "Paul Blart, Mall Cop". brush Jul 2019 #27
This fake cop is truly a stupid person Gothmog Jul 2019 #9
i bet the white security guy tried to become a cop and failed. and considering the incredibly low JI7 Jul 2019 #10
+1. Too dumb to pass the police entrance exam dalton99a Jul 2019 #23
Lock his cracker ass up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #11
Paul Blart: Mall Cop???????????? HAB911 Jul 2019 #13
Eklund will be getting a new uniform soon. marble falls Jul 2019 #15
This is an interesting case Renew Deal Jul 2019 #16
Good Question. James48 Jul 2019 #18
In general, no jberryhill Jul 2019 #21
Ok, asked someone who knows. Corgigal Jul 2019 #24
There is no doubt that the security guy overreacted Renew Deal Jul 2019 #25
There's also such a thing as professional courtesy that those "on the job" extend to each other. brush Jul 2019 #29
No, no, no...the fake cop's name CANNOT be "Blart"!! It can't be so!! bullwinkle428 Jul 2019 #20
I know and thought the same thing!! tavernier Jul 2019 #28
In the video, the security guard told the other cops that the cop "wouldn't leave," but tblue37 Jul 2019 #22
So right. I don't know what happens to these guys in situations like this. brush Jul 2019 #30
Its even worse than that...no thinking on mall cops part at all.... sdfernando Jul 2019 #31
Of course. That dumb dumb is in the wrong profession all together. brush Jul 2019 #32
Can an off duty local police officer carry his gun into a federal building? hughee99 Jul 2019 #33

malaise

(269,172 posts)
6. I can't begin to process this one
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:31 AM
Jul 2019

To think that it's all punishment for daring to vote for the black man.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
26. Nope, that's just a convenient "blame the victim" excuse
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jul 2019

Racism has been around a lot longer than 2008.

irisblue

(33,032 posts)
3. TAF?
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:15 AM
Jul 2019

source-https://www.13abc.com/content/news/Security-guard-pulls-gun-on-Lucas-County-Sheriffs-deputy-512552471.html


Snip-"There's really no way to know how you're going to act when there's a gun pointed at you and when you think you're going to lose your life," said Gaston.

Gaston works as a defensive tactics instructor. He says he felt the best way to de-escalate the situation was to walk away. Eventually Toledo police arrived after getting a 911 call. But the caller from inside the IRS office never tells 911 the man with the gun is a uniformed deputy sheriff."

Snip-"Gaston and his wife have now filed a civil lawsuit against that security guard Seth Eklund and the security company seeking compensation after Gaston allegedly suffered emotion and psychological distress and lost wages."

Snip-"I would say ‘Clearly your training is lacking and the fact that you went 0 to 100. Lethal force is unacceptable," said Gaston."{<<no shit}


Seth is a deep mess

DFW

(54,437 posts)
12. Yes, that wasn't clear at first
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:33 AM
Jul 2019

It also made me wonder: WHY does someone named Seth Eklund need to be going by the name of Paul Blart? Might Seth Eklund have something in his record that „Paul Blart“ does not?

JHB

(37,162 posts)
14. I don't think Eklund goes by that name, so much as it was hung on him by the article writer
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:50 AM
Jul 2019

Slang for a rent-a-cop throwing his weight around.

brush

(53,871 posts)
27. The "Blart" I'm guessing is a sly reference to that movie, "Paul Blart, Mall Cop".
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jul 2019

This Blart should never be allowed anywhere near a badge and gun again.

What the hell did he think he was doing to a uniformed LEO? The fact that the real cop was black is what this is all about. The wannabe's racism took over his body as he took his stance with both hands on his extended gun.

What an armed idiot, a danger to anyone near him.

JI7

(89,271 posts)
10. i bet the white security guy tried to become a cop and failed. and considering the incredibly low
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:33 AM
Jul 2019

standards they have as a cop he must suck really bad. Just like that piece of shit george zimmerman who was unable to become a cop .

Renew Deal

(81,873 posts)
16. This is an interesting case
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:01 AM
Jul 2019

Does it matter if you're not allowed to enter the building with a gun if you're a uniformed police officer? A lot of federal buildings have signs saying that firearms aren't allowed. Does that include police officers not on duty or not on police business?

James48

(4,440 posts)
18. Good Question.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:30 AM
Jul 2019

It used to be that federal buildings were guarded by federal employees. Then the Bush Jr. administration contracted out most of that. So now they are guarded by contract guards. Who follow the rules, that say no weapons allowed in, except for federal officers, and local police who have been called to the scene. This would not meet the criteria. So he is not allowed in, even in uniform. He is not there at the request of the IRS, so he is not permitted to bring a gun into the building.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. In general, no
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:52 AM
Jul 2019

Last edited Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:59 AM - Edit history (1)


And, to clarify, since there were a couple of questions in there.

No. Unless local police have been summoned to the facility, they cannot take their weapons into a federal facility.

As you may appreciate, there are a number of self-styled "constitutional sheriffs" in this country who would like to do just that.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
24. Ok, asked someone who knows.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:46 AM
Jul 2019

Since the LEO was going to the IRS office, that should be considered a federal building and yes he could be told he couldn't bring his gun into the office. They also might have a lock box for local officers. Only a federal officer can bring a gun into a federal building.

However, pulling the gun at the officers back and following him out. That's crazy.
Calling backup, even 911 was fine and asking the uniform cop to wait until this get worked out.
It's possible the local uniformed cop could have gotten fined here.

Local cops can't carry everywhere, airports and federal facilities, for example. Military bases, at least during my time, wouldn't allow it either.

Renew Deal

(81,873 posts)
25. There is no doubt that the security guy overreacted
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:53 AM
Jul 2019

There are a lot of people in this world that think linearly.

brush

(53,871 posts)
29. There's also such a thing as professional courtesy that those "on the job" extend to each other.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:49 AM
Jul 2019

The wannabe cop apparently, not being a real cop, never heard of it and foolishly created a situation out of nothing.

The real cop, realizing he was dealing with a poorly trained fool, decided it wasn't worth an argument over and walked away to de-escalate but the wannabe wasn't having anything to do with de-escalation.

Hope the real cop's suit is successful and the charges against the wannabe are followed through. And needless to say, the security guard should never be allowed to come near a badge and gun again.

bullwinkle428

(20,630 posts)
20. No, no, no...the fake cop's name CANNOT be "Blart"!! It can't be so!!
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:46 AM
Jul 2019


EDIT: Clearly, it was too coincidental! Just an editorial choice on the part of the reporter!

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
22. In the video, the security guard told the other cops that the cop "wouldn't leave," but
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:55 AM
Jul 2019

he DID leave, and Blart chased him down the hall and to the elevator to prevent him from leaving, holding his gun out and ready to fire the whole time.

brush

(53,871 posts)
30. So right. I don't know what happens to these guys in situations like this.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:05 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:44 PM - Edit history (1)

it's as if they've forgotten that there are security cameras everywhere, plus cell phone cams in many instances, recording everything they do. This was a federal building so of course there are cameras.

They caught his every power trip move and every lie about the real cop wouldn't leave. The real cop had the good sense to try to de-escalate as he realized he was dealing with a poorly trained fool who wasn't worth wasting his time with.

That is probably what infuriated the wannabe, the fact that the real cop, rather than follow his orders to leave his gun in his car, turned around and walked away from him without saying a word to him.

sdfernando

(4,941 posts)
31. Its even worse than that...no thinking on mall cops part at all....
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:52 PM
Jul 2019

So, even if the uniformed cop agreed to leave his gun in the car...wouldn't he have to leave the building to do that?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
33. Can an off duty local police officer carry his gun into a federal building?
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:21 PM
Jul 2019

No, I don’t think Blart handled this well, but I don’t think a local or even state officer can carry a gun into a federal building.

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