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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYT Columnist Asks CNN Hosts: Which 'Sh*thole Country' Are You From?
By Nicole Lafond
July 15, 2019 8:59 am
Author and New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman tore into President Trump on Monday morning for his recent racist attacks on four congresswomen of color, arguing that Trump is talking about us all.
Virtually all of us can trace our roots to what Trump has called shithole countries. Hey Camerota, he said, addressing CNN host Alisyn Camerota, which shithole country did your grandparents come from? (John) Berman, which shithole country did your grandparents come from?
We all came here, we all came here because this is not a country of blood and soil, which Trump thinks, he continued. Its a country built on the universal idea that out of many we make one. And I know one thing absolutely for sure, that we have a President of the United States who could not pass the simplest citizenship test that is administered to every new immigrant in this country because he has no idea what this country is about.
Friedman was discussing President Trumps recent rampage against Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) and Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) in which he said that all four women should go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.
Link to tweet
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-cnn-shithole-country-thomas-friedman
teach1st
(5,935 posts)But I'm kicking this.
Lars39
(26,116 posts)I would have missed it otherwise.
elleng
(131,118 posts)LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)With cuccinilli and Alyson Camarata totally got in his face about all of this nonsense too!
elleng
(131,118 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)spanone
(135,877 posts)True Dough
(17,326 posts)is Donald Trump. It's so farcical. At times, I still think I'm in an episode of the Twilight Zone.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)pazzyanne
(6,557 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)But reading some of his opinions, sometimes he hits the nail on the head on an issue, but when he's wrong, he is horribly off mark. Like if he is playing darts, he will get a few bullseyes, but the rest of the throws fly off into the bar sticking innocent bystanders.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Like, you can't even make fun of that, it's so wrong-headed.
KG
(28,752 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...which also describes the Trump concentration camps.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)proActivist
(75 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)My word, what bee got in his bonnet? Usually Friedman requires the intermediary services of a taxi driver or a food cart worker to figure out what he wants to say. But in this case, well said, sir.
FakeNoose
(32,767 posts)Thomas Friedman is kicking ass!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He should go back to Hell, where he came from.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Which used to be a beautiful place, but now is being reduced to shithole status, since one of Trumps despotic friends has assumed power there.
Hekate
(90,810 posts)...of making even the most devoted decide to pack what they can into one bag and leave. I don't know what was going on in Hungary when your people left, but Hungary to America is an awful long way to go.
I think of my college friend Diane whose family was Serbo-Croatian. The precipitating event for one side of the family was the Influenza epidemic that killed 20 million worldwide. It pretty much killed everyone in their village, so that when g-grandma awoke from her fever with all her hair having fallen out, a man of her acquaintance said (in Diane's words, I don't know how it sounds in Serbian), "There's nothing left here for us. Let's blow this pop-stand." And thus a marriage and a journey to America were launched.
England's a fine and lovely place, but my ancestor probably would have been hung for his dissenting religious beliefs had he remained in the 1600s. The Irish tale of the 1800s is too well-known to repeat, but for generations after the Great Hunger Ireland's biggest export was people. Beautiful, beautiful countryside. Charming people, mostly. I'm glad I missed The Troubles and I'm glad to have missed living in what the Church wants to be a theocracy.
Sorry, I strayed.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Hid in a traveling hay wagon
Hekate
(90,810 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)Swedish military around WWI and came to this country. Other grandfather served in the Swedish army.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)highplainsdem
(49,040 posts)orangecrush
(19,620 posts)Hekate
(90,810 posts)...the old European war-cries about Blood and Soil. I don't know who suggested it to him, but in his feeble brain I'm sure all he saw was the syrupy sentimentality.
Bush the Lesser did a lot to appease and encourage the Religious Right and the RW generally, and he appears to have been ahistorical, living in the Eternal Now without reference to what came before. "Homeland" was pretty much tailor-made for white nationalists should they want it -- and oh, they do.
Tom Friedman is calling out the result. Trump is xenophobic, racist, and nationalist. He actively encourages the hate of fringe groups. Where Dubya was just dimwitted, Trump is intentional and malignant.
Friedman is right. America used to be called a melting pot for a reason. Out of many, one. Unity in our diversity. The nation belongs to all of us, not just one group. And as for bleephole countries (as Nicolle W calls them), almost nobody travels lightyears from all they know without a good reason.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The first time I heard the word Homeland, I instantly thought of the word Fatherland. It makes my skin crawl to hear it.
llmart
(15,552 posts)I cringed when I heard that and that there would be a Department of Homeland Security. I just knew that twenty years later we'd still have the same department and name. It just reminded me too much of of Nazi Germany.
I'm pretty sure we were in the minority at the time though because most Americans are lemmings.
moondust
(20,006 posts)day in and day out for a couple years now, someone should ask him if he knows what those weird little words mean.
IcyPeas
(21,904 posts)she laughed and said Iowa.
(Jake was referencing this twitter thread asking people if they have ever been told to go back where they come from, he was not asking seriously)
Link to tweet
Beacool
(30,253 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)My mother's family were Austrian and Czech Jews. Many of them were murdered by the Nazis that Trump considers to be "fine people".
I, myself, was born in England.
DFW
(54,437 posts)All four grandparents were born in shithole places like South Carolina and New York! Lindsey Graham AND Donald Trump!
But wait--also James Clyburn and Sonia Sotomayor. Not so shitty after all............