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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 09:44 AM Jul 2019

NYT Columnist Asks CNN Hosts: Which 'Sh*thole Country' Are You From?


By Nicole Lafond

July 15, 2019 8:59 am

Author and New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman tore into President Trump on Monday morning for his recent racist attacks on four congresswomen of color, arguing that Trump is “talking about us” all.

“Virtually all of us can trace our roots to what Trump has called shithole countries. Hey Camerota,” he said, addressing CNN host Alisyn Camerota, “which shithole country did your grandparents come from? (John) Berman, which shithole country did your grandparents come from?”

“We all came here, we all came here because this is not a country of blood and soil, which Trump thinks,” he continued. “It’s a country built on the universal idea that out of many we make one. And I know one thing absolutely for sure, that we have a President of the United States who could not pass the simplest citizenship test that is administered to every new immigrant in this country because he has no idea what this country is about.”

Friedman was discussing President Trump’s recent rampage against Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) and Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) in which he said that all four women should “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”




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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-cnn-shithole-country-thomas-friedman
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NYT Columnist Asks CNN Hosts: Which 'Sh*thole Country' Are You From? (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
I rarely kick teach1st Jul 2019 #1
And I thank you! Lars39 Jul 2019 #3
I'm kicking it to my FB posts, to sound it far and wide. elleng Jul 2019 #18
The next segment was LittleGirl Jul 2019 #2
Good. That idiot deserves every such he gets, and MORE. elleng Jul 2019 #20
Kick Cracklin Charlie Jul 2019 #4
Truth to power spanone Jul 2019 #5
And the person sitting in the most powerful office in all the world True Dough Jul 2019 #26
I have never even remotely applauded Tom Friedman before (nt) Recursion Jul 2019 #6
I haven't either, but I am now! pazzyanne Jul 2019 #11
I wasn't really familiar with him. Bradical79 Jul 2019 #17
He literally wrote a book about globalization called "The World is Flat" Recursion Jul 2019 #30
The mustache of truth speaks. KG Jul 2019 #7
Kick and recommend. Truth. bronxiteforever Jul 2019 #8
Funny, the Dotard never talks about the shithole his mom grew up in. geardaddy Jul 2019 #9
Typical Trump property: "indescribably filthy" and characterized by "human wretchedness" lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #14
Exactly! geardaddy Jul 2019 #16
Thanks... Interesting fact about dotard45 (nt) proActivist Jul 2019 #15
Thomas! gratuitous Jul 2019 #10
Well said, and it's about time! FakeNoose Jul 2019 #12
President Shithead is turning US into a shithole country. lagomorph777 Jul 2019 #13
My ancestors are mostly from Hungary Dirty Socialist Jul 2019 #19
Every part of the Earth is beautiful in its own way, but famine, war, & oppression have a way ... Hekate Jul 2019 #22
My great grandfather was a draft dodger Dirty Socialist Jul 2019 #27
Some wars are useless endeavors from the get-go Hekate Jul 2019 #28
My fathers father was a draft dodger from the whistler162 Jul 2019 #34
As did mine. Czarist Russia. hedda_foil Jul 2019 #39
Mediaite article with a slightly longer video clip: highplainsdem Jul 2019 #21
KICK orangecrush Jul 2019 #23
Of the many things Dubya did I won't forgive is renaming America "The Homeland," which reeks of... Hekate Jul 2019 #24
It's a another name for Fatherland lunatica Jul 2019 #29
Glad I'm not the only one. llmart Jul 2019 #33
Surrounded by this image moondust Jul 2019 #25
Jake Tapper just asked Seung Min Kim (white house reporter) where she came from IcyPeas Jul 2019 #31
Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jul 2019 #32
+1 K&R onetexan Jul 2019 #36
Rec. cwydro Jul 2019 #35
Kicked x 1000 Progressive Jones Jul 2019 #37
Trump should be fixing Manhattan. SDNY will take care of that. CaptYossarian Jul 2019 #38
My father's family is mostly English, with Scots, Irish, German and Norse admixtures Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2019 #40
I am so ashamed of my ancestry DFW Jul 2019 #41

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
2. The next segment was
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:17 AM
Jul 2019

With cuccinilli and Alyson Camarata totally got in his face about all of this nonsense too!

True Dough

(17,326 posts)
26. And the person sitting in the most powerful office in all the world
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:55 PM
Jul 2019

is Donald Trump. It's so farcical. At times, I still think I'm in an episode of the Twilight Zone.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. I wasn't really familiar with him.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:31 PM
Jul 2019

But reading some of his opinions, sometimes he hits the nail on the head on an issue, but when he's wrong, he is horribly off mark. Like if he is playing darts, he will get a few bullseyes, but the rest of the throws fly off into the bar sticking innocent bystanders.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
30. He literally wrote a book about globalization called "The World is Flat"
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jul 2019

Like, you can't even make fun of that, it's so wrong-headed.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
9. Funny, the Dotard never talks about the shithole his mom grew up in.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jul 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_MacLeod_Trump#Early_life
Mary Anne MacLeod was born in a pebbledash croft house owned by her father since 1895 in Tong on the Isle of Lewis.[2] Local historians and genealogists have described properties in this community at the time as "indescribably filthy" and characterized by "human wretchedness".[5][6]

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Typical Trump property: "indescribably filthy" and characterized by "human wretchedness"
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jul 2019

...which also describes the Trump concentration camps.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Thomas!
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:26 AM
Jul 2019

My word, what bee got in his bonnet? Usually Friedman requires the intermediary services of a taxi driver or a food cart worker to figure out what he wants to say. But in this case, well said, sir.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. President Shithead is turning US into a shithole country.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jul 2019

He should go back to Hell, where he came from.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
19. My ancestors are mostly from Hungary
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jul 2019

Which used to be a beautiful place, but now is being reduced to shithole status, since one of Trump’s despotic friends has assumed power there.

Hekate

(90,810 posts)
22. Every part of the Earth is beautiful in its own way, but famine, war, & oppression have a way ...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:13 PM
Jul 2019

...of making even the most devoted decide to pack what they can into one bag and leave. I don't know what was going on in Hungary when your people left, but Hungary to America is an awful long way to go.

I think of my college friend Diane whose family was Serbo-Croatian. The precipitating event for one side of the family was the Influenza epidemic that killed 20 million worldwide. It pretty much killed everyone in their village, so that when g-grandma awoke from her fever with all her hair having fallen out, a man of her acquaintance said (in Diane's words, I don't know how it sounds in Serbian), "There's nothing left here for us. Let's blow this pop-stand." And thus a marriage and a journey to America were launched.

England's a fine and lovely place, but my ancestor probably would have been hung for his dissenting religious beliefs had he remained in the 1600s. The Irish tale of the 1800s is too well-known to repeat, but for generations after the Great Hunger Ireland's biggest export was people. Beautiful, beautiful countryside. Charming people, mostly. I'm glad I missed The Troubles and I'm glad to have missed living in what the Church wants to be a theocracy.

Sorry, I strayed.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
34. My fathers father was a draft dodger from the
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jul 2019

Swedish military around WWI and came to this country. Other grandfather served in the Swedish army.

Hekate

(90,810 posts)
24. Of the many things Dubya did I won't forgive is renaming America "The Homeland," which reeks of...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jul 2019

...the old European war-cries about Blood and Soil. I don't know who suggested it to him, but in his feeble brain I'm sure all he saw was the syrupy sentimentality.

Bush the Lesser did a lot to appease and encourage the Religious Right and the RW generally, and he appears to have been ahistorical, living in the Eternal Now without reference to what came before. "Homeland" was pretty much tailor-made for white nationalists should they want it -- and oh, they do.

Tom Friedman is calling out the result. Trump is xenophobic, racist, and nationalist. He actively encourages the hate of fringe groups. Where Dubya was just dimwitted, Trump is intentional and malignant.

Friedman is right. America used to be called a melting pot for a reason. Out of many, one. Unity in our diversity. The nation belongs to all of us, not just one group. And as for bleephole countries (as Nicolle W calls them), almost nobody travels lightyears from all they know without a good reason.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
29. It's a another name for Fatherland
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jul 2019

The first time I heard the word Homeland, I instantly thought of the word Fatherland. It makes my skin crawl to hear it.

llmart

(15,552 posts)
33. Glad I'm not the only one.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:12 PM
Jul 2019

I cringed when I heard that and that there would be a Department of Homeland Security. I just knew that twenty years later we'd still have the same department and name. It just reminded me too much of of Nazi Germany.

I'm pretty sure we were in the minority at the time though because most Americans are lemmings.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
25. Surrounded by this image
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:49 PM
Jul 2019

day in and day out for a couple years now, someone should ask him if he knows what those weird little words mean.

IcyPeas

(21,904 posts)
31. Jake Tapper just asked Seung Min Kim (white house reporter) where she came from
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jul 2019

she laughed and said Iowa.

(Jake was referencing this twitter thread asking people if they have ever been told to go back where they come from, he was not asking seriously)



Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
40. My father's family is mostly English, with Scots, Irish, German and Norse admixtures
Tue Jul 16, 2019, 07:34 AM
Jul 2019

My mother's family were Austrian and Czech Jews. Many of them were murdered by the Nazis that Trump considers to be "fine people".

I, myself, was born in England.

DFW

(54,437 posts)
41. I am so ashamed of my ancestry
Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:21 AM
Jul 2019

All four grandparents were born in shithole places like South Carolina and New York! Lindsey Graham AND Donald Trump!

But wait--also James Clyburn and Sonia Sotomayor. Not so shitty after all............

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