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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDonald Trump's Attitude Toward Duly Elected Members of Congress
gives us a glimpse into his fevered and disorganized brain. When he tells four U.S. female citizens of color, three of whom were born in the United States and one a naturalized citizen, to "go back to where they were born," he states a clue we should all recognize.
The President of the United States does not believe that people of color, especially women of color, are truly U.S. citizens, but are somehow less than that. That should alarm all of us. He did not check to discover the birthplaces of the women of color he disrespected. He simply referred to them as less entitled to the claim of citizenship than, say, his own wife.
Like Ilhan Omar, Melania Trump is a naturalized immigrant. She is also white. So, it's OK for her to occupy the White House as First Lady, but it is not OK, in his mind, for four women of color, three of whom were born in the continental United States to be elected as members of Congress.
His tweets express his racism and misogyny, purely and simply. If you are a woman of color, you do not belong in the United States, Trump is saying. Not only that, you are unqualified to serve in public office. You should return to the country of your ancestors and stop pretending to be equal to white Americans.
That is what his tweets truly mean, and they should scare the crap out of every woman and man of color in this country, along with all the rest of us.
We have a racist and jingoist as President. We must correct that at the very first opportunity.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)MineralMan
(146,331 posts)Thank you!
pecosbob
(7,543 posts)If he even indirectly urges others to commit crimes against these persons or otherwise violate their civil rights he should be removed immediately IMO. No political considerations. No dithering. This should be a red line.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)The will to remove him from office, however, is not there among the people who must vote to do that.
It will probably be up to us, as voters, to take care of that next November. More's the pity.
pecosbob
(7,543 posts)MineralMan
(146,331 posts)She has received many threats against her. I hope her level of protection is substantial.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,793 posts)More women NOT afraid of Donald Trump need to rise up and run for office in this country.
If 2018 was not a rallying cry, 2020 is. The more women in Congress, both Houses, the better off we will be. Republican men who defend the orange fat fuck, will have much to pay for.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)I'm proud to have a Democratic woman as my House representative (Betty McCollum), and both of my Senators (Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith).
Wherever I have lived, I have worked to help elect women to office, because women have historically been under-represented.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,793 posts)MineralMan
(146,331 posts)But thanks. BTW, I checked out your period clothing. Wonderful!
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,793 posts)Those who are interested in what I do. I will take very good care of them.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)BTW, for others reading this, the link is in your profile, and well worth visiting.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)I'll be proudly voting for Ilhan again next year! As well as my two female senators Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith!
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,793 posts)The flag of the Red Dragon of Wales...Is that you, Mr.Z?
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)My grandmother grew up in a Welsh-speaking (actually bi-lingual) community in Scranton, PA.
Who's Mr. Z?
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,793 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)No, just a fan of their music.
calimary
(81,500 posts)of the population, then if were REALLY interested in the whole concept of representation, then shouldnt it follow that there should be a slightly larger number of women in Congress and the Senate than there are men? Thats how the general US population is. Women comprise 51 percent or so. Its slightly more than 50%.
malaise
(269,172 posts)The Preamble to the Constitution is an introductory, succinct statement of the principles at work in the full text. It is referred to in countless speeches, judicial opinions, and in a song from Schoolhouse Rock. Courts will not interpret the Preamble to confer any rights or powers not granted specifically in the Constitution.
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,793 posts)MineralMan
(146,331 posts)The sentence is way too long, for one thing, and there are many words in it he doesn't know.
For example, he would think "posterity" was something about his expansive ass. And "ordain" would confuse him because he didn't know the United States was a minister of some church. Further, he hates "welfare," and doesn't believe in "domestic tranquility," since he'd rather Melania left him alone 100% of the time.
malaise
(269,172 posts)For example, he would think "posterity" was something about his expansive ass.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)The on,y i migrants trump wants are from Norway
Nay
(12,051 posts)Norwegians would tell him that to his face.
keithbvadu2
(36,917 posts)Confession by Trump?
3 of the 4 Congresswomen come from America.
America's leader is... Trump.
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https://twitter .com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381395078000643?ref_src=
Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump
So interesting to see Progressive Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......
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Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump
....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why dont they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
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Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump
....it is done. These places need your help badly, you cant leave fast enough. Im sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
George II
(67,782 posts)Grandfather - Bavaria, lived in the US but wanted to return to Bavaria, was deported for dodging the draft
Grandmother - Bavaria
Mother - Scotland, came to the US as a "chain migrant" to live with her sister, his aunt
First wife - Czechoslovakia
Third wife - Slovenia
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)Did Putin arrange that?
bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)Abraham Lincoln's Indian policies were racist, yet he is rarely called on it. Banned to reservations. Ignored when lobbying Washington.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/janfeb-2013/lincoln-no-hero-to-native-americans/
See also "Six Encounters with Lincoln: A President Confronts Democracy and Its Demons" by Elizabeth Brown Pryor
Lincoln worship went way too far, but prior to 1920, historians were all of the same cloth cut from educated, Republican, pro-growth universities and colleges, many of them private and supported financially by corporate titans or founders.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)before Europeans arrived is a shame on them, frankly. That is one of the worst things in our history, in my opinion.
We stole this country from those who lived here, and engaged in wholesale genocide against those original peoples.
I'm sorry, but I don't care who was involved. Those attitudes still remain in many states where a Native American population still exists, including my own adopted state of Minnesota and my home state of California.
Our historical and current treatment of Native Americans is an enormous source of shame.
bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)Native Americans were conquered by lies, gunpowder, empty promises, and Christians who called themselves tolerant
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)and before that in Southern California. All around me was evidence of the genocide of the Chumash peoples who inhabited those areas for millennia. Then came the Spanish explorers, military, and priests. They enslaved those people, converted them by force, and systematically destroyed their culture and their lives. Not one person of pure Chumash ancestry survives or was alive when I was born.
The Chumash were not a war-like people. A hunting and gathering culture, they had rich and varied lives in places where the necessities were easy to obtain. They were easy marks for the Spanish, who came with arms and technology to claim their lands.
None remain. Only their artifacts and the Spanish Missions as a symbol of their destruction tell their story. Some estimates have them living in those places for 7000 years or even longer. In less than a century, they no longer existed.
I remember being taken on field trips in elementary school to the Missions at San Buenaventura and Santa Barbara. Nothing was said about the genocide of those who were there long before the Spanish arrived. Nothing. I did not learn of it until high school, when I studied that history for myself.
Shame on us!
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,917 posts)Trump is jealous of Congressfolk because they got more votes than their opponent.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)They are REPRESENTATIVES of their districts of Americans!!
When the orange ass spouts his shit, he is disrespecting his fellow Americans. Even those who voted for him.
So when he talks down to the women, he is talking down to us all.
This is UN-American!!
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)But, it's also more than that. They are also representatives of everyone in the USA. They serve both roles.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)best way to steal another election. Even if the Democrats are not at each others throats, he can instigate, and say it is so. Perception=Reality.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)I'll be doing my best, whoever our nominee turns out to be.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)it is up to me? we? Nancy Pelosi? It's exhausting... Countering some of the stuff, is like going up against a brick wall.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)MineralMan
(146,331 posts)TommyCelt
(838 posts)Anyone who thinks this trump leaves the White House quietly under ANY circumstances is simply not listening, IMO.
All of this talk about the 2020 elections - I'm not 100% convinced they will even take place. Every day it's another inch of ground, another atrocity that everyone swallows as plain-talkin' trump being trump. Numb and punch drunk, so many are buying this as the new normal.
THIS IS NOT NORMAL!
Now Graham is going full-on McCarthy calling the Congresswomen trump debased as "bunch of communists who hate our country". This is not right. This is not OK. THIS IS NOT NORMAL!
I am becoming less and less convinced that the checks & balances and governmental/constitutional apparatus in place to protect our country from the likes of this trump will prove inadequate. No I don't know what we're going to do about it. But I and my family do not feel safe.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)The 50 states will see to that. As for who wins, that will depend on how well we are able to make sure voters who are on our side show up and vote in those elections.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)on eastern European/Russian trophy wives...or at least pregnant Russian women coming over here to have anchor babies.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)However none of it would get through the Senate, nor be signed into law by the President right now.
And that's the problem with that.