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xmas74

(29,676 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:22 PM Jul 2019

Is supporting striking Amazon workers supporting ableism?

I have heard this argument in multiple groups today. Supposedly by choosing to support striking workers during Prime Day I am an abelist and a poverty shamer.

Anyone else been shamed today for supporting striking workers?

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marble falls

(57,240 posts)
1. We always support union and non union workers. Ableism is such a shitty ...
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jul 2019

term. We're talking about decent living wages with safe and humane working conditions. No one ever went wrong supporting these goals.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
2. I'm actively involved in my union.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jul 2019

I stated I support workers. This statement put me on the receiving end of how supporting strikers was ableism and poor shaming because there are products for sale on Prime Day they couldn't afford otherwise. I was also informed that supporting workers makes me racist and anti immigrant because our nation was founded on stolen land and anything we do is hypocritical. Finally, if I support a strike I should be willing to send money to people who can't afford to pass up these deals.

I'm still not sure how they've managed to turn a powerful action by the worker into being a racist, xenophobic, abelist act of poor shaming.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
4. I felt it was mostly mental gymnastics
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:07 PM
Jul 2019

To get to the arguments they were making. The newest argument was what if someone needs Plan B and has social anxiety so they can't get to a store?

At this stage it's mostly scenarios to back up everything they've spent on tablets and Fire sticks.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
10. Fellow union member.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jul 2019

State employee in the lowest paying state in the nation. I was informed that by supporting a strike I was poor shaming others from my place of privilege.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
14. Considering my place of privilege
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jul 2019

Comes from working with disabled adults and making a smidge above my state's poverty line.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
19. It's a job.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:20 PM
Jul 2019

I enjoy it but it really pays almost nothing. I'm passionate about the care received but I'm also passionate about worker's rights. I don't need to walk on the backs of others to get a discount.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,438 posts)
6. Ignoring concerns of disabled people or shaming them for using Amazon is ableism.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jul 2019

Supporting striking workers in your own way is not.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
8. Which I would never ignore those comments.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:26 PM
Jul 2019

When I stated I was not ordering due to strikes over working conditions I was informed that I was ableist and poor shaming. The ableism comments didn't begin until I mentioned that some workers were striking due to work conditions (14 plus hour shifts, no breaks, warehouses with no heat and no ac, etc). Once I stated that I stand with workers is when I suddenly became a self righteous person of privilege who practiced ableism and deserved shame.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
12. Specifically and directly shaming a disabled person is wrong.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jul 2019

But supporting Amazon workers is not ableist. I fail to see how allowing corporations to weaken and destroy labor has helped disabled people in any way, even if a particular corporation may provide goods and services that help some people with disabilities. No one, disabled or not, lives in a bubble. When labor is weakened and workers are exploited, we all suffer.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
17. I work for DMR in MO.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jul 2019

The last thing I would do is shame someone d/t a disability. But I also know that the workers have families, some who might also be disabled. By crossing a picket a message is sent to those families. Not supporting those workers is also poverty shaming since many are making poverty wages.

This was all about gaming consoles, tablets, air fryers and Fire sticks.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
7. It's an old right wing ploy - Turn a positive trait or achievment into a negative
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jul 2019

A Karl Rove strategy that's still used today.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
9. I work with developmentally disabled adults.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jul 2019

A great deal on an air fryer on the backs of employees isn't worth it. We sometimes use Prime but have decided to hold off on those purchases the next few days.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
11. I've cut way back on Amazon shopping in general
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:31 PM
Jul 2019

Something happened between me and Amazon that's left bad taste for the company. But we do order now and then. I won't be shopping there during these Prime days, either. The nay sayers can stick it.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
18. Thank you!
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jul 2019

Someone asked me if I was going to give them the cost in savings if they decided to wait for after the sale. They said that these protests come from a place of privilege and that I needed to put my money where my mouth is.

I work in MR/DD for a state agency. My state is the lowest paid in the nation for state employees. My field is notoriously low paying. I make barely above poverty wage in my state. Without overtime I would fall in the nationwide levels. I'm not shaming anyone and I don't see where I'm flexing my privilege by choosing not to buy unnecessary items like air fryers while crossing a picket line.

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