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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOusted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence (He was going down even if Trump didn't rage about him.)
Ousted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence
Leaked U.K. diplomatic cables critical of President Trump have led Britains ambassador, Sir Kim Darroch, to announce his departure from Washington earlier than expected. But the story is not yet concluded.
According to one current and one former U.S. government official speaking on the condition of anonymity, Darroch repeatedly leaked classified U.S. intelligence material, including highly classified material, to a journalist for a U.S.-based media outlet. The sources are consolidated by the reaction my related inquiries have received from other government officials.
These leaks are unrelated to the diplomatic cables which sparked Trump's anger and Darroch's departure.
Still, one source says that the U.S. government was so alarmed by Darroch's leaks that it launched an official investigation to find the source of the information. That source described the leaked intelligence as very sensitive, and suggested that exigent U.S. security concerns motivated the investigation. That source says that non-U.S. government derived records showed the ambassador and journalist exchanging messages on a continuing basis. The source emphasized that these communications were not derived from U.S. government actions.
More: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ousted-uk-ambassador-leaked-us-intelligence
Leaked U.K. diplomatic cables critical of President Trump have led Britains ambassador, Sir Kim Darroch, to announce his departure from Washington earlier than expected. But the story is not yet concluded.
According to one current and one former U.S. government official speaking on the condition of anonymity, Darroch repeatedly leaked classified U.S. intelligence material, including highly classified material, to a journalist for a U.S.-based media outlet. The sources are consolidated by the reaction my related inquiries have received from other government officials.
These leaks are unrelated to the diplomatic cables which sparked Trump's anger and Darroch's departure.
Still, one source says that the U.S. government was so alarmed by Darroch's leaks that it launched an official investigation to find the source of the information. That source described the leaked intelligence as very sensitive, and suggested that exigent U.S. security concerns motivated the investigation. That source says that non-U.S. government derived records showed the ambassador and journalist exchanging messages on a continuing basis. The source emphasized that these communications were not derived from U.S. government actions.
More: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ousted-uk-ambassador-leaked-us-intelligence
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Ousted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence (He was going down even if Trump didn't rage about him.) (Original Post)
MelissaB
Jul 2019
OP
A second source, a career government official, described the leaks as "unprecedented."
MelissaB
Jul 2019
#1
Sounds to me like a Trump inspired skid greasing job. My moneys on Darrock.
marble falls
Jul 2019
#5
That "sensitive information" was likely about Trump's crimes e.g. collusion.
lagomorph777
Jul 2019
#8
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)1. A second source, a career government official, described the leaks as "unprecedented."
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)2. "Five Eyes"
One of the sources said that the ambassador repeatedly transmitted highly classified U.S. originator-control intelligence material to the journalist. ORCON intelligence, as it's called in the intelligence world, is closely held and carefully distributed. At least some of this material was classified at the "Five Eyes" alliance classification level, meaning it was distributed by the U.S. only to Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand. Some intelligence may also have been classified at the U.S.-U.K. only level. Such intelligence is transmitted only on the condition of established protocols and the assumption it will be closely held.
Sneederbunk
(14,303 posts)3. Sounds like a Trump cover story.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)4. FWIW, the Washington Examiner is a right-leaning source.
marble falls
(57,240 posts)5. Sounds to me like a Trump inspired skid greasing job. My moneys on Darrock.
moondust
(20,006 posts)6. He may have also leaked
the diplomatic cables himself--knowing he was on his way out anyway--to add some official international legitimacy to the mainly Democratic criticisms of Trump. He may have felt that doing so would serve both as a warning to the world that it's not just a matter of domestic, red-v-blue U.S. politics as Trump would have everyone believe but also as a litmus test to see how the prospective British P.M.'s would react publicly.
zooks
(308 posts)7. Could be a setup to deflect attention from whoever leaked the emails
such as Boris Johnson. Sounds fishy that this comes out now. Just sayin
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)8. That "sensitive information" was likely about Trump's crimes e.g. collusion.
So that would piss off Trump, Boris, Natasha May, and everybody in the US/UK/Putin cabal.
Just found this; seems a likely example of the leaks:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142341716
stillcool
(32,626 posts)9. Who to believe?
U.S. allies hold breakfast for departing British ambassador and the message is clear
Karen DeYoung
In what one European diplomat called a subtle but pretty clear message of solidarity with departing British Ambassador Kim Darroch, his German counterpart hosted him and the French and European Union ambassadors for breakfast at her official residence in Washington on Thursday.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-allies-hold-breakfast-for-departing-british-ambassador-
Separately, the Sunday Times reported that a government investigation into the leak had identified a civil servant as the person responsible.
Working with officials from the National Cyber Security Centre, part of spy agency GCHQ, and MI6, the probe has homed in on a suspect who had access to historical Foreign Office files, the paper said.
and from the LA Times
https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-britain-ambassador-trump-20190714-story.html
Trump pulled out of Iran nuclear deal to spite Obama, then-British ambassador said
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
JUL 14, 2019 | 2:25 PM
| LONDON
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Scotland Yard is hunting for the perpetrator who leaked confidential diplomatic cables to the Mail. Last week, the newspaper published memos from Darroch describing the Trump administration as dysfunctional and inept.
Rumors are swirling in government circles in London about who was behind the leak, widely seen as benefiting supporters of Brexit and Trump.
The journalist who reported the cables, Isabel Oakeshott, is a strong supporter of Brexit and an ally of Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage, who also is Britain's leading champion of Trump.
Farage has accused Darroch of lacking enthusiasm for Britain's departure from the EU. He said Darroch should be replaced with "a non-Remainer who wants a trade deal with America."
Trump pulled out of Iran nuclear deal to spite Obama, then-British ambassador said
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
JUL 14, 2019 | 2:25 PM
| LONDON
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Scotland Yard is hunting for the perpetrator who leaked confidential diplomatic cables to the Mail. Last week, the newspaper published memos from Darroch describing the Trump administration as dysfunctional and inept.
Rumors are swirling in government circles in London about who was behind the leak, widely seen as benefiting supporters of Brexit and Trump.
The journalist who reported the cables, Isabel Oakeshott, is a strong supporter of Brexit and an ally of Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage, who also is Britain's leading champion of Trump.
Farage has accused Darroch of lacking enthusiasm for Britain's departure from the EU. He said Darroch should be replaced with "a non-Remainer who wants a trade deal with America."