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Remember when "the squad" told US Jewish Republicans that Netanyahu was "your prime minister"? (Original Post) ck4829 Jul 2019 OP
When did the "squad" say that? Autumn Jul 2019 #1
They didn't. 45 did. GuyNamedNathan Jul 2019 #13
it was a play at sarcasm my dear Autumn Celerity Jul 2019 #20
Back at you Celerity Autumn Jul 2019 #22
I don't remember anything like that. lunatica Jul 2019 #2
You have to follow the link. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #5
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Jewish Republicans thought Bibi AND Trump are their leaders. GuyNamedNathan Jul 2019 #12
Not so sure. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #16
Much like Catholics and the Pope unc70 Jul 2019 #17
Trump accused Jews of desecrating their own cemeteries & syagogues. displacedtexan Jul 2019 #19
Trump's brain is a cesspool of various toxic ideologies. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #23
I think Trump said that. Tech Jul 2019 #3
You think correctly. GuyNamedNathan Jul 2019 #11
Here is what he's referring to ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #4
Who the fuck is "The Squad"? jpak Jul 2019 #6
"The Squad" Caliman73 Jul 2019 #18
*** Sarcasm (poorly executed) Alert *** zaj Jul 2019 #7
and seriously what's with the squad term??? a kennedy Jul 2019 #8
Yeah, that's a very confusing post. Demit Jul 2019 #9
It's sarcasm, since it was in fact Trump who told Jewish Republicans that Bibi is "their" leader. GuyNamedNathan Jul 2019 #10
I know. Unfortunately it is not successful sarcasm. Demit Jul 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jul 2019 #15
I absolutely 'got' your point, BUT, based off comments, I would (just a suggestion)add a sarcasm tag Celerity Jul 2019 #21

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
5. You have to follow the link.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:08 PM
Jul 2019

The link shows Trump giving a speech and saying to Jewish Repbulicans that they need to support Netanyahu, calling him "your prime minister". It isn't really literal but fits with the pattern of assumptions that Trump makes about thinking he knows what is best for others.

 

GuyNamedNathan

(89 posts)
12. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Jewish Republicans thought Bibi AND Trump are their leaders.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jul 2019

And that Obama was not when he was President - which was true of a LOT of Republican voters, Jewish or not.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
16. Not so sure.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jul 2019

That is a very sensitive topic, especially for Jewish people. Their interests may align with Israel, but when people say that they have "split loyalties" It brings up old antisemitic ideas which were the basis of a great deal of violence done to Jews over the centuries.

They express their desire for the US to stand with Israel's right to exist and defend itself to varying degrees, but I am sure they all recognize their loyalty to the United States.

unc70

(6,120 posts)
17. Much like Catholics and the Pope
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:55 PM
Jul 2019

That message was widespread among the RW when I was growing up, for example with JFK.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
19. Trump accused Jews of desecrating their own cemeteries & syagogues.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:08 PM
Jul 2019

He claimed they did it to protest anti-Semites. As if.
https://tinyurl.com/y4wh2bl2

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
23. Trump's brain is a cesspool of various toxic ideologies.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:32 PM
Jul 2019

I don't think that he can keep track of it all either, which is why it comes out as such a mess. The article you linked to did not specifically say that Trump blamed Jews for desecrating their cemeteries and synagogues. He basically responded to a question with a stupid hacked up attempt to play all sides. He specifically said, "Sometimes its the reverse" in response to a question about what thought of recent attacks on Jewish holy sites. He speaks like that for two reasons. One, because he is truly stupid and likely has not really thought about any kind of answer. Two, because he can intimate sinister things against people he doesn't like while not fully committing to an anti-Semitic statement.

Like he tried to walk the edge today at his bizarre gaggle doubling down on the idea that "they should leave if they don't like America" but trying to stay away from the real message of that turn of phrase which is that "you aren't really American because you aren't White."

Obviously the congresspeople do not like what they are seeing America become under Trump, but they plan on fighting to change that rather than leaving the place where they were born or spend the majority of their life in (in the case of Ohmar). It is an old conservative trope, "love it or leave it". Well, I can love aspects of my country and be proud of certain things, but recognize that our policies have caused some serious problems internally and around the world. I can love my country for what it can be and has shown, but at the same time want to change it and improve it. Unfortunately conservatives minds don't work that way. They are stuck in a binary thought process.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. Here is what he's referring to
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019
Trump criticized for calling Netanyahu 'your prime minister' at Jewish Republican event

WASHINGTON – Jewish American groups criticized President Donald Trump for calling Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu "your prime minister" during an address Saturday to the Republican Jewish Coalition.

"I stood with your prime minister at the White Hous to recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights," he told the audience at the RJC's Annual Leadership conference in Las Vegas.

Some said that Trump's conflation of American Jews with Israelis played into old anti-Semitic tropes about divided loyalties.

"Mr. President, the Prime Minister of Israel is the leader of his (or her) country, not ours. Statements to the contrary, from staunch friends or harsh critics, feed bigotry," the American Jewish Committee said in a response to Trump's remark that was posted on Twitter.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
18. "The Squad"
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:57 PM
Jul 2019

is the term that has been used in association with 4 freshmen Democratic Congresspeople, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Aryanna Pressely, and Ilan Ohmar. I am not sure if they self identified or it was a moniker placed on them from the outside. It carries both positive and negative connotations depending on where your support lies.

The post seems to be mainly referring to the controversy that Rep Ohmar got into a while back when discussing problems with Israeli lobbyists and their support for Likud policies affecting Palestinians. She may have used the term "divided loyalties" which is something that many Jewish Americans have been accused of and which appears to be an old slur used to justify purges of Jewish people from various countries throughout history.

The post appears to be meant sarcastically since Trump himself recently told Jewish Republicans that Netanyahu is their Prime Minister.

Response to GuyNamedNathan (Reply #10)

Celerity

(43,516 posts)
21. I absolutely 'got' your point, BUT, based off comments, I would (just a suggestion)add a sarcasm tag
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jul 2019
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