That last season... good lord.

willing to forgive as much as I could for having to make up for Frank being gone.......but yeah, it was a HUGE disappointment. Frank was an awesome character, they shoulda tried harder.

miscarriage of justice or a just outcome--I really don't, but I thought it would get more interest, frankly.

I can not imagine that the DA will go forward with it...they had zero evidence, and a victim who pleads the fifth? They have Heather Unruh. wonder if Spacey is going to sue them?

wherein he is facing any other criminal charges.

confused me. That was fast! I think he still faces something in London?

The London case involves him allegedly abusing subordinates when he was a theatre director there.

He has way more money than Spacey to buy the best lawyers. So did Kraft.

The Florida case against Kraft was crippled by errors that were made during the surveillance.

If the SDNY did it's homework, Epstein will go to jail. The question is whether powerful men that participated in pedophelia with him will face justice.

the highly paid legal team can be the dog that ate the homework.

Is that when you tell them you're giving them O'Douls but it's really Stout IPA? Or tell 'em it's cranberry juice when it's actually spiked with Vodka?

I wonder what the remaining criminal charges are? Sounds from the story as though the phone is considered important evidence in that one as well (i.e. it's not just about Spacey providing alcohol to someone under 21).

I do kinda wonder why the court would consider it incumbent on the boy to provide his phone ... shouldn't Spacey have to provide some kind of evidence that there were exonerating texts on them, rather than just 'saying there is' and then the kid has to come up with them? That seems ... backwards.

Maybe Spacey did come up with something to prove it (or at least suggest it) though already, hard to know.

I hope he's not guilty just cause I like Spacey, I gotta admit.

Apparently it can be put in any liquid and causes the response of drunkeness and loss of control. So a person can drink a glass of water and get "drunk" if they don't ask for a capped bottle instead.

but somehow wound up intoxicated, seems like he must've been drugged!?!', rather than using the phrase 'got him drunk' ... if that were the case?

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"Hey, Bill, man, it's really not my fault ... Ronnie got me drunk!"

He'd tell you to 'STFU, nobody can get you drunk. What did he do, tie you down and waterboard you with Whiskey?'

Are you beginning to understand the point I'm making, or do I need to explain further?

He was guilty in the court of public opinion. So now what?

His career was shot, but recently he has both acted and directed.

Spacey still has cases that can be brought against him.

If he clears all the cases that may be brought, my guess is him being Kevin Spacey would be rehabilitation enough. The guy was probably one of the top living actors, on par with Pacino, Denzel Washington and DiNiro.

NEVER MIND.

The prosecution got hung out to dry by the accuser and his parents who are obviously hiding some details that would cast doubt on their claims against Spacey.

I don't doubt he was drunkenly partying with a younger man, the entire question is whether the advances were welcome or not.

Once the accuser dropped his civil case and then pleaded the fifth in the criminal proceedings it was over.

If prosecutors had moved forward, they would have lost badly, IMO.

but I believe Scotland Yard is investigating also.

conduct.

...Season 4 was all a dream.

the only accusation against him. Don't get out over your skis reacting to this story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Spacey#Sexual_misconduct_allegations

More than fifteen accusers in the US, eight from House of Cards.
More than twenty in the UK, at least 6 of which were reported to police.
One accuser was 14 at the time of the alleged incident, an incident which Spacey then publicly claimed he didn't remember but apologized for.
Co-star on The Usual Suspects says production was shut down for 2 days after he made unwanted advances to a young actor.


Look, I get it, I liked Kevin Spacey as an actor before I knew any of this too. But the charges being dropped and the lawsuit being dismissed with prejudice in this case do not make Spacey a non-creep. Look at the entire picture.