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NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:34 PM Jul 2019

So Ask the Question Already!

We’ve heard it thousands of times from Trump supporters: “I like what he’s done so far.”

Just once I’d like to hear these people asked to be specific: “Exactly what has Trump done that you like?”

What I’ve seen ‘done’ so far is this: He’s ballooned the deficit, and given tax cuts to the wealthy. He has insulted our allies, and praised our enemies. He has lifted environmental protections so that corporations can increase their profits. He has put inept cronies in positions of power, and his closest advisors are a handbag designer and a dumbass who inherited his father’s real estate business. Many of his much-touted “best people” are awaiting trial, are already in prison, or have been forced to resign in disgrace due to criminal and/or unethical conduct.

He promised a Wall that still hasn’t been built – and which Mexico certainly isn’t paying for. He promised to replace Obamacare with something cheaper and more efficient that would cover “everyone” – and what he eventually delivered was shot-down because it was more expensive than Obamacare, and would have meant a loss of coverage for millions.

He has lied repeatedly to the citizenry, acted the buffoon on the world’s stage, and incited violence at his rallies. His “university” was shut-down because it was a fraud, and his “charitable foundation” was shuttered because a judge declared it “rife with corruption”.

He paid off women to keep them silent about his affairs, and refuses to release his tax returns and records of his financial dealings.

He consistently embarrasses us in front of the global community with his complete ignorance of history, geography, and science – and ludicrous statements about wind turbines causing cancer, and the American revolution being won by shutting down the airports.

I’ve seen Trump-humpers being interviewed on news shows – and just once I’d like the interviewer to ask them exactly what it is they claim to like about what this “pResident” has accomplished.

I suspect the response would be that same vacuous, blank stare they adopt when asked how many states there are, or who won the Civil War.


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So Ask the Question Already! (Original Post) NanceGreggs Jul 2019 OP
They'll say "Hillary was worse" jberryhill Jul 2019 #1
They have no idea what he has done. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #2
He has insulted every real leader this country has had for the last 50 years FakeNoose Jul 2019 #3
A very good question! leftieNanner Jul 2019 #4
This Ferrets are Cool Jul 2019 #9
He's allowed them to express their true selves in public Brawndo Jul 2019 #5
I saw a video of a young woman reporter asking a person that question lunatica Jul 2019 #6
I imagined the honest response would be more like ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #13
Stock answer: "Well, he's still way better than Hillary" TheCowsCameHome Jul 2019 #7
You're so glass half empty Ferrets are Cool Jul 2019 #8
That's because ... NanceGreggs Jul 2019 #11
Are they even "that" full? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2019 #21
Okay. NanceGreggs Jul 2019 #22
he's making America white again.. stillcool Jul 2019 #10
He stopped Hillary from becoming POTUS. That's all they wanted leftstreet Jul 2019 #12
75% of them ***LITERALLY*** make shit up !! Trump protects them from the non-wight walkers ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #14
I never talk to fascist pig racist tRumpsters. nt yaesu Jul 2019 #15
I'm with you.... paleotn Jul 2019 #19
MSM will never ask those questions. SCVDem Jul 2019 #16
They will mumble something about the economy JDC Jul 2019 #17
Great post. I'm bookmarking for later reference. kacekwl Jul 2019 #18
I did ask one Trumpie I know paulkienitz Jul 2019 #20
For one thing, stop about the economy elias7 Jul 2019 #23
He can and has taken credit for the economy. maxsolomon Jul 2019 #28
He's normalized racism. zentrum Jul 2019 #24
they'll mention his claimed victimization, and say he's "fighting for us" Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #25
He's a nasty, bigoted bully & he's gotten away with it because of his (supposed) money & influence. CrispyQ Jul 2019 #26
I've asked this question repeatedly. maxsolomon Jul 2019 #27
He made America great again! He drained the swamp! Lowest unemployment numbers ever! Initech Jul 2019 #29
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. They'll say "Hillary was worse"
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:37 PM
Jul 2019

That’s why it doesn’t matter. These people are so filled with propaganda about the Clintons that they are willing to concede that Trump is atrocious - it’s simply that they believe Hillary would have been worse.

madaboutharry

(40,220 posts)
2. They have no idea what he has done.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jul 2019

But they do know this - he hates the same people they hate.

That’s what it is about.

FakeNoose

(32,758 posts)
3. He has insulted every real leader this country has had for the last 50 years
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jul 2019

Right on the money NanceGreggs!



leftieNanner

(15,150 posts)
4. A very good question!
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:40 PM
Jul 2019

They would either give you the blank stare, or they would spout the BS he puts out there every day.

He's the best President we've ever had.
HE built the greatest economy the world has ever seen.
He's keeping those dangerous criminals from coming across the border.
He's building the Wall. Even though we know that he isn't.

The lies he tells are all on the tips of their tongues.

But I would like it if journalists would ask that question and push back on the incorrect answers.

Brawndo

(535 posts)
5. He's allowed them to express their true selves in public
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:40 PM
Jul 2019

That is more precious to them than gold. Some people are slaves in search of a master, they've found one.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. I saw a video of a young woman reporter asking a person that question
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:52 PM
Jul 2019

The woman she asked said, “because he’s done what he said he would.”

The young reporter came back again and again with actual facts of what he’s done, and after each point the MAGAT woman claimed it was a lie. When the young reporter told the MAGAT that there was documented proof the MAGAT rejoined with, “That’s fake news.”

You just can’t fight that level of willful gullibility. It’s entrenched.

But, like you, I do wish ALL the journalists and hosts and pundits would start asking these questions non stop, never backing down, never changing the subject.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
13. I imagined the honest response would be more like
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:11 PM
Jul 2019

"He's owning the libs."

They know he isn't keeping his promises, so that's all they have left: owing the libs.

You think about the vote to condemn his racist tweets. The very next day he had his stupid rally and repeated the racist remarks. Everyone was chanting them. Why? Because, besides the fact that they are hardcore racists, it was an opportunity to "own the libs." They love that he is a bully.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
10. he's making America white again..
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:59 PM
Jul 2019

nothing else matters. He's tapping into their miserable psyche's and giving them something to make themselves feel bigger, and better, and not the effing poor losers they are.

leftstreet

(36,112 posts)
12. He stopped Hillary from becoming POTUS. That's all they wanted
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:04 PM
Jul 2019

And in doing that, he "stuck it" to liberals, hippies, commies, minorities, vegetarians, atheists, designer poodles, and whatever else they want to see burn

Oh, and he made it safe to use racist language!!!!1

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
14. 75% of them ***LITERALLY*** make shit up !! Trump protects them from the non-wight walkers ...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:19 PM
Jul 2019

... and kills their kids so he's OK with them.

paleotn

(17,962 posts)
19. I'm with you....
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:50 PM
Jul 2019

I've tried, but it's hopeless. Absolutely hopeless. I have more success discussing politics with fence posts.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
16. MSM will never ask those questions.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:36 PM
Jul 2019

Now I have seen The Daily Show and I believe Jimmy Kimmel, ask trumpsters at their rallies.

They are so easy to catch in their bullshit.

When asked about the Space Force, they described NASA's mission. They think ISIS will be a space threat.

Deer in the headlights stupid!

JDC

(10,133 posts)
17. They will mumble something about the economy
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jul 2019

That was strong before Trump thanks to Obama.

Thanks Obama!

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
20. I did ask one Trumpie I know
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:55 PM
Jul 2019

and he said that what he liked was specifically how he's reducing immigration.

This is a guy who passed as a progressive until Trump came along. Now he's defending all the "strongmen" that Trump pals around with, saying that the media only labels them with that word because they dare to defy the international elites.

To his credit, he does see the rottenness of the non-Trump parts of the GOP. For instance, their history of vote suppression, and their middle-east warmongering.

elias7

(4,026 posts)
23. For one thing, stop about the economy
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 09:23 AM
Jul 2019

The foundation of this bull market was 1) cyclical, 2) started under Obama, and 3) would have stronger if the R’s had not worked against the stimulus packages.

The market has continued its momentum, which Trump cannot take credit for, has continued its improvement in unemployment numbers, most of which occurred under Obama, and got further bolstered due to an unwise infusion or stimulus with tax cuts that primarily helped corporations and increased our national debt.

Sadly R’s control the narrative since they are not bothered by nuance, complexity, facts, or truth. IOW, they have no trouble creating one bullshit meme after another, something Dems will not do.

They ignore all those plain as day things you have laid out, and don’t have the seriousness as people to actually muse upon what has actually (not) been accomplished.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
28. He can and has taken credit for the economy.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jul 2019

As a result, he's being given credit for it, despite his ludicrous tariffs.

His one talent is his utter shamelessness; take loud credit for everything good, loudly blame anyone else for everything bad. Never back down.

It works well on TV, and the Press has no idea how to counter this technique.

We're in deep shit.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
24. He's normalized racism.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jul 2019

That's what they like about what he's done.

He states out loud their own deepest impulses.

He's the racist id, unleashed.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
25. they'll mention his claimed victimization, and say he's "fighting for us"
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 02:51 PM
Jul 2019

There is no logic to the worship of a cult figure.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
26. He's a nasty, bigoted bully & he's gotten away with it because of his (supposed) money & influence.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 02:56 PM
Jul 2019

Cult45 just wants to behave the same way & get away with it, too. I agree with that blog poster, (sorry, don't remember who) who recently commented, "We knew what Trump was. What's hard is finding out what some of our family & friends are."

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
27. I've asked this question repeatedly.
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:11 PM
Jul 2019

The answer is always the Tax Cuts, the jolt they gave the economy, and the Stock Market's continued rise.

Obama's 7-year expansion? That didn't exist.

Everything else is immaterial.

As long as the Economy is good, they'll never question their support.

Initech

(100,103 posts)
29. He made America great again! He drained the swamp! Lowest unemployment numbers ever!
Fri Jul 19, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jul 2019

They like things broken down into 3 and 4 word chants.

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