who once worked as a trainer for Richard Butler (Aryan Nation founder) in Idaho.

It was hard not to puke.

I'm on my phone and can't link, but The Independent says 22 million as of 2017.

So many of them.

As long as he doesn't do that, they'll continue to be blind to the path he is leading us on.

there are some republicans who will finally realize they've gone too far when they see the square mustache.

actually, there are *a lot* of republicans who are in it for the money and really don't care for the divisive racism crap (not enough to object to it, though). they roll their eyes and put up with it because hey, if that's what it takes to get my tax cut and deregulation for my company, whatever.

but the square mustache would scare them. they still want normalcy, they don't actually want a dictatorship or civil war or protests in the street or strikes. there *is* a point at which donnie could lose them.


you're right that *the republican party* wouldn't abandon him, but he'd go down to 25-30% support instead of 40% support and at that point it becomes difficult for them to steal elections and get away with it.

will say he looks 'cute' with the new mustache.

The Germans came to grips with their past and made amends.

But one ran for Congress last year in Chicago, named Arthur Jones. He lost.

56,000 people voted for an open and admitted Nazi. The local GOP politicians even spoke to their members and asked them not to vote for the Nazi, but 56,000 voted for him in spite of that.

So, based on that, my guess is that this 56,000 represents the stupid, and the Nazi sympathizers. As to the proportion of each, I am open to argument.

Like many cities, North and South, Chicago has a big problem with racism.

They are dyed in the wool haters. They are embedded deep in society, bosses, moms, police officers, ect. They ply their hatred undercover and are doing serious damage to the country.

It is known for the large number of police and firefighters living there, and for the many acts of racism that just happen to occur there.

The GOP doesn't even normally try to run in that district. I remember the GOP trying to shut the nazi down. It's solidly Bluedog Democrat country.

The Southwest side of Chicago, where this district is, is historically racist as F. Things only got better there with an influx of Hispanic residents over the past several years.

Those parts of the 3rd District are definitely not economically lower class, or working class, but the Nazi received his strongest support in in the 3rd District in the more upper income white areas.

residents of the SW side of Chicago who had a few bucks. Well paid building tradesmen, and well paid Cook County employees, for example. Higher income blue collar people. They made "da move out to Palos" in a white flight. "Palos" might have some money, but it's no North Shore...

And this area, including Orland and Tinley Park, experienced tremendous growth beginning in the 1960s as white Chicago residents quickly moved out as non-whites moved into Chicago neighborhoods such as Marquette Park that previously had been rigidly segregated.

That's a lot of very dangerous people

Or they are comfortable supporting open racists.

I have met/confronted this Nazi numerous times. He is a disgusting monster. And he drinks a lot as well.

This is why I think the USA could have a widespread insurgency waiting in the wings. This quarter of the population has been energized and normalized by Trump, and they don't mind if people different from them die. Now, if a charismatic revolutionary leader were to come along and take advantage of those feelings, all bets are off. With a bit more organization, you're looking at The Final American Solution, applied to liberals, Democrats, POC and eggheads.

And the media, being fixated on ratings and profit, ignores this real danger.

I wouldn’t even begin to know how to solve that.

between the neo-Nazis and the neo-Confederates? They seem to have a lot in common (hate, racism, authoritarianism, etc.)

However, the amount of racist in this country is another story. The country has always been full of racists...they are just emboldened now because of Agent Orange.

If we get rid of that Putin butt-licking moron, the rest will crawl back under their rocks.

The difference is which country allows them a megaphone in the form of public officials or even a head of state.

...we have had neo-Nazis/white nationalists in the US, and I am now 71. We have also had groups tracking them, and they produce maps of where extremists have active groups. I know there are some sprinkled throughout California -- hell, I know there are some in the mellow laid back Central Coast where I live, not because I've seen white-sheet & tiki torch parades on Main Street, but because in the past I have taken a good look at those maps.

The only difference between 30 years ago and today is that for awhile they were socially unacceptable and truly a fringe element -- and now we have a full-on racist as president who holds
white nationalist rallies, and the GOP has fully embraced the people who hold this dangerous ideology.

According to the ADL, the National Socialism Movement is the largest NAZI party in the US with 400 members in 32 states.

One is too many

are we talking swastika flag waving open Nazis, or people who don't think they are Nazis but in reality act just like them and are too stupid to realize they are Nazis?

The first group is probably about a million. The second group is... well just google "how many people voted for drumpf in 2016" and you have your number.

At the very least they are Nazi in America accomplices in crime.

comprised of....

Birchers
neo nazis/kkk/nativists/neo confederates/minutemen
goldbugs
anti tax protesters and scam artists
randian acolytes
patriot movement
sovereigns/constitutionalists
dominionists/reconstructionists
Militias
Libertarian utopians

One of my favorite words but I don't use it as often as I should. Thanks for the reminder.

They're not that hard to spot.

Although, with my white skin, white buzzcut hair, and black clothing, I've got the classic look. So obviously looks can be deceiving.

As far as the having grandpas goes, my dad was 10 when WWII started and he's pushing 90. Everyone in our family who fought in WWII is long dead.

I recommend checking out her work.

vote like a Nazi.

America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won.

Yet here they are marching to "take back America".

When did the Nazis have America?

who don't really know anything about history. They don't even know what they're doing.
They simply run on racial hatred and stupidity. Cowards who know that they have the 1st Amendment
to fall on.

The educated ones, who have gainful employment, are financing the losers.

...they almost certainly are Nazi enablers. There are 60+ million or so such enablers in this nation at present.

Trump "emboldened" the Nazis

" Michael Von Kotch, a Pennsylvania resident who called himself a Nazi, said the rally made him "proud to be white."

He said that he's long held white supremacist views and that Trump's election has "emboldened" him and the members of his own Nazi group. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fights-in-advance-of-saturday-protest-in-charlottesville/2017/08/12/155fb636-7f13-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?utm_term=.b54a0162fe07

they are getting the ink, and the microphones. I don't think Nazi's voted for Obama or Clinton.

So of the virulent sort we could call "nazi" I would bet about a quarter of the population - around 80 million or so.

One of the best studies on authoritarian personalities was done by Bob Altemeyer at the University of Manitoba. A web site devoted to the topic is here: https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

Although there are several tests for authoritarian/fascist tendencies, here is a very simple but apparently accurate one, based on parenting style:

Well behaved’ part.

Very interesting Mahalo

Being well-behaved in a general social sense is irrelevant to them, or even a sign of weakness.

I can't think about this stuff for too long. It really scares me.

🤙🏼

Article written in January 2016, during the primaries...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533
Title: The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter
And it’s not gender, age, income, race or religion.

If I asked you what most defines Donald Trump supporters, what would you say? They’re white? They’re poor? They’re uneducated?

You’d be wrong.

In fact, I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism.

My heart sank.

25 to 30%.