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North Korea has released pictures of a new submarine that it could potentially use to launch nuclear weapons. If thats the case, the country may have gained a very dangerous, stealthy ability to threaten the US and its allies all in defiance of President Donald Trump.
Pyongyang released three images on Monday night showing North Korean leader Kim Jong Un standing in front of a massive submarine inside a shipyard. Experts say its large enough that it could carry missiles equipped with nuclear bombs, allowing Kim to order nuclear strikes from unknown underwater locations.
While none of the photos definitively prove the vessel could shoot nuclear-tipped projectiles theyre cropped so you cant see the top part of the submarine where the weapons would go analysts tell me North Korea would probably only be interested in developing a submarine if it had nuclear capability.
Why waste the real estate? MIT nuclear expert Vipin Narang said, noting that North Korea wouldnt bother putting conventional bombs on one of its only two missile-carrying submarines.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-just-revealed-one-of-its-most-potentially-dangerous-weapons-yet/ar-AAEL4zS?li=BBnb7Kz
Guess Trump's sweet talking didn't work.
JI7
(89,264 posts)marble falls
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And we won't even discuss how many more missiles an Ohio class fleet ballistic missile submarine carries.
Or how many American Fast Attack submarines there are out at times all over the planet on patrol.
still_one
(92,394 posts)marble falls
(57,204 posts)and get nothing to show for it.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)Now there is an inbred autocrat in that circle of distrust.
Or two?
jpak
(41,759 posts)It's no minisub that's for sure.
TheBlackAdder
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They've been perfecting them for decades, and based on the one US test of an underwater explosion, ended abysmally.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/70-years-ago-the-us-military-set-off-a-nuke-underwater-and-it-went-very-badly
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keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)Sub locations on patrol are super top secret info.
Trump told how many for our enemies to look for off N/S Korea.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
In late 1985, Walker made a plea bargain with federal prosecutors, which required him to provide full details of his espionage activities and testify against his co-conspirator, former senior chief petty officer Jerry Whitworth. In exchange, prosecutors agreed to a lesser sentence for Walker's son, former Seaman Michael Walker, who was also involved in the spy ring.[2] During his time as a Soviet spy, Walker helped the Soviets decipher more than one million encrypted naval messages,[3] organizing a spy operation that The New York Times reported in 1987 "is sometimes described as the most damaging Soviet spy ring in history."[4]
After Walker's arrest, Caspar Weinberger, President Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Defense, concluded that the Soviet Union made significant gains in naval warfare attributable to Walker's spying. Weinberger stated that the information Walker gave Moscow allowed the Soviets "access to weapons and sensor data and naval tactics, terrorist threats, and surface, submarine, and airborne training, readiness and tactics."[5] John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy during the Reagan Administration, stated in an interview that Walker's activities enabled the Soviets to know where U.S. submarines were at all times. Lehman said the Walker espionage would have resulted in huge loss of American lives in the event of war.[citation needed]
In the June 2010 issue of Naval History Magazine, John Prados, a senior fellow with the National Security Archive in Washington, D.C., pointed out that after Walker introduced himself to Soviet officials, North Korean forces seized USS Pueblo in order to make better use of Walker's spying. Prados added that North Korea subsequently shared information gleaned from the spy ship with the Soviets, enabling them to build replicas and gain access to the U.S. naval communications system, which continued until the system was completely revamped in the late 1980s.[6] It has emerged in recent years that North Korea acted alone and the incident actually harmed North Korea's relations with most of the Eastern Bloc.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anthony_Walker
Russia later said they knew where each of our subs were and their missions and could have destroyed them all, deeming the Navy part of the Defense Triad winnable. From 1967 - 1985 giving sub locations, their missions and their radio codes.
Everyone was watching that movie, stroking their USA USA egos, when in reality our entire sub fleet was in jeopardy.
There was even a shout out to Putin (just as a character name), where one Russian says, "that man is a pig."
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