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turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 02:03 PM Jul 2019

There is a 2020 scenario that's even worse for Democrats than a Trump victory

What if the next GOP president was just as authoritarian as Trump, but not a rank incompetent?
Ian Millhiser
Jul 24, 2019, 8:00 am

“I see a number of serious shocks on the horizon that could cause our economy’s shaky foundation to crumble,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) wrote in an article posted to the website Medium on Monday.

We should listen to her. The senator and presidential candidate obviously has an interest in painting the man she hopes to replace as a poor steward of the economy, but she also brings an unusual amount of expertise to this topic. A former Harvard law professor and arguably the nation’s leading expert on bankruptcies, Warren spends much of her article citing news stories demonstrating that she correctly predicted the 2008 recession and many of its causes.

Warren is hardly alone in raising alarms. According to a February survey by the National Association for Business Economics, which Warren also cites in her piece, “three-fourths of the NABE Policy Survey panelists expect an economic recession by the end of 2021,” while “42% say a recession will happen in 2020.”

Which brings us to a potential nightmare scenario for Democrats. The worst case for Warren’s party in 2020 may not be a Trump victory. It’s a scenario where Warren (or some other Democratic nominee) wash President Donald Trump out of office, but some combination of House gerrymandering and Senate malapportionment gives Republicans control of at least one house of Congress.

https://thinkprogress.org/there-is-a-2020-scenario-thats-even-worse-for-democrats-than-a-trump-victory/

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The nightmare of American democracy is that it is not really democracy. We hold elections and have two rival parties. But the deck is stacked so heavily in favor of one of those parties that there are few scenarios that lead to meaningful Democratic victories. And each time America holds an election that does not swing the Democrats’ way, the number of future scenarios that favor the Democratic Party grows smaller.

If you are a Democrat, your best hope is to fight for a 2020 victory that is so overwhelming that it will overcome gerrymandering, overcome the Electoral College, overcome Senate malapportionment, and then hope that this new government is able to keep the economy roaring for long enough to ward off a crippling loss.

And, along the way, hope that this new government is able to enact sweeping democratic reforms — including admitting many new states — that will allow both parties to compete in fair elections moving forward.



It really is getting tiresome to have republicans fucking the country while in power and then democrat(s) taking back power to correct the fucking........................and then we get blamed......................not this time

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There is a 2020 scenario that's even worse for Democrats than a Trump victory (Original Post) turbinetree Jul 2019 OP
We can vote ourselves back into power. Vote state elections as hard as we vote ... marble falls Jul 2019 #1
Not do diss the learned professor Warren customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #2

marble falls

(57,223 posts)
1. We can vote ourselves back into power. Vote state elections as hard as we vote ...
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jul 2019

Presidential elections. And local elections, too. State legislatures is where reapportionment and gerrymandering happens, The state and local elections are where national candidates can get to learn how legislative process works, these offices are academies. The GOP figured that out and that's why they work to hard to suppress our voting on all front from spreading cynicism about the value of voting and voting restriction laws.

Government works and it works for the party in charge of the process. We have to take back the process and it can only happen if we vote.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
2. Not do diss the learned professor Warren
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jul 2019

but the thing that would have brought on recession was a collapse in talks over the budget and the debt ceiling. We just saw an agreement that needs only Trump's signature to push that time off until well after the 2020 election.

And whoever wrote that second part, about overcoming gerrymandering doesn't know snot about the subject. It affects only the House of Representatives, not the Senate or the Electoral College.

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