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sheshe2

(83,879 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:03 PM Jul 2019

Oh, FFS!

The hearing was a shit show, yet not the one some of the media wants to portray it. The Democrats are in disarray, I think not. The GOP made fools of themselves with their theatrics. You wanted a show, the GOP obliged. Louie takes the cake with a 5 minute tirade, screaming, red faced and spittle flying. Dayum, Jack Nicholson should step aside. Lou wins the Oscar hands down.

Then you had Turner with more theatrics slamming one law book after another on his desk , to make his point on exoneration. Dayum that was an impressive stack of books! Bet as a kid he surpassed in building blocks.

You wanted a show and the GOP surpassed expectations. Everyone of them proved beyond a shadow of a doubt who's side they are on, Trump/Russia, the USA be damned. THIS is the biggest takeaway from that hearing.

As for MR Mueller, a fair and precise man with a sharp legal mind. He is a by the books kind of guy and follows the word of law as he as done his entire life. He is a war hero and a leader.

The pundits and others called him frail, bumbling and disheveled. Unable to answer the questions instantly without asking the page that was being quoted. Fact. That was a 400 page report that took two years to compile. Fact. Mueller had dozens of legal minds working on that report. Their were other investigations that were handed over to the proper authorities and are still under investigation. Who here has instant recall? Who here has memorized a 400 page legal report and has no need to check their notes. As for the questions he refused to answer? It is a fact that the investigations are far from over and he can not comment on an ongoing investigation.

Whoa, then their is the ageism. Mueller is 75 and said to be to old and frail and failed at the job he was hired for. I think some here should rethink that...considering our candidates.












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Oh, FFS! (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 2019 OP
I thought the hearing was much better than the book. Hoyt Jul 2019 #1
It's frustrating af! recd Kurt V. Jul 2019 #2
Last night I was wishing I could have reached through my TV The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3
The word came down from the MBAs. GeorgeGist Jul 2019 #13
... Me. Jul 2019 #4
Boom! sheshe2 Jul 2019 #6
I love Rep. Jeffries......and he hit the hearing on the head...... a kennedy Jul 2019 #17
Good post. Fair, well-written. Thanks for sharing the tweets, a little levity to off set the emmaverybo Jul 2019 #5
Thanks, emmaverybo. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #7
how come there were no fast cars and explosions? Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #8
wonder when they got the script? stillcool Jul 2019 #9
Silly me, here I thought in part that Mueller was making everyone give... Guilded Lilly Jul 2019 #10
And I STILL ask........ MyOwnPeace Jul 2019 #11
From the hearing... sheshe2 Jul 2019 #18
It's truly shocking the way this is playing out. Nt BootinUp Jul 2019 #12
This may be the nadir of American politics. warmfeet Jul 2019 #14
those Nadler and Schiff opening questions and Mueller's responses are sinking in slowly. faymer7 Jul 2019 #15
So right, she mcar Jul 2019 #16
I replied to a DU post a few weeks ago BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #19
👏🏾! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #25
This is what the media wanted catchnrelease Jul 2019 #20
OMG! Brilliant sheshe2 Jul 2019 #23
That's pretty damn good! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2019 #26
One Word homegirl Jul 2019 #28
Kick grantcart Jul 2019 #21
Facts are there and that's most important. Duppers Jul 2019 #22
Yes. Ageism. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #24
Mueller did what I expected him to do. Aussie105 Jul 2019 #27
For what it is worth, I thought Mueller's testimony was very, very damaging. To Trump. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #29
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. I thought the hearing was much better than the book.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jul 2019

Especially in the afternoon where Mueller tempered his comment in the opening statement that they found no evidence of conspiracy/cooperation.

If only he’d walked in with a “Lock Him Up” hat.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,832 posts)
3. Last night I was wishing I could have reached through my TV
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jul 2019

and strangled Brian Williams (whom I usually don't mind because he's at least polite) because he would not STFU about how "frail" and "feeble" Mueller seemed. At least Frank Figliuzzi, while acknowledging that his age was showing, made the point that the content of his comments would have been the same whether he was 64 or 44. But Williams wouldn't shut up about Mueller's "performance" for a good 20 minutes and I finally turned off the TV.

It further pissed me off to see similar comments on DU.

It's not MTV, folks.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. ...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:16 PM
Jul 2019

Rep. Jeffries: "We weren't trying to entertain the American people. We wanted to educate and inform the American people. We didn't invite Robert De Niro to testify. We invited Robert Mueller to testify, and in that regard, he delivered what we expected."

a kennedy

(29,705 posts)
17. I love Rep. Jeffries......and he hit the hearing on the head......
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:17 PM
Jul 2019

WE DIDN’T HIRE ROBERT DeNIRO TO TESTIFY........ loved it.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
5. Good post. Fair, well-written. Thanks for sharing the tweets, a little levity to off set the
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:19 PM
Jul 2019

gloomy reality that even bright and savvy DUers need jazz hands and table flips to feel sufficiently
entertained by democracy at work.

sheshe2

(83,879 posts)
7. Thanks, emmaverybo.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:24 PM
Jul 2019

I don't want entertainment. I want our democracy back. As we both know, our lives and or children's futures are at stake.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
9. wonder when they got the script?
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 08:36 PM
Jul 2019

and who made the decision to attack on the basis of entertainment value and age. Well orchestrated, but apparently there wasn't much to work with. Can't get into what was actually said. What's a cable newsy to do?

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
10. Silly me, here I thought in part that Mueller was making everyone give...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jul 2019

the exact location/citation of any phrases they used from the report so there would be official documented written hearing records.

Too much expectations of a Reality Show drama.
Questions were answered. On record.

I’m reserving final judgment of the entire 6+ hours (I watched every minute though “some, cough cough” parts were muted) until we all see what the next steps Congress must/will take.

There is still more to this than meets our partisan eyes.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
11. And I STILL ask........
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:26 PM
Jul 2019

Why can't we - ALL AMERICANS - see the ENTIRE report?

Have all members of the Congress seen/read the ENTIRE report?

How can anybody defend/criticize that which they have not read?

IF you have nothing to hide, why-

1. fight tax returns disclosure
2. fight release of government investigations
3. stop aides from testifying
4. file suits to stop investigations

Really, these ARE questions that need to be asked - and we need OUR government officials (yeah, the Democrats) out there asking them every single day!




sheshe2

(83,879 posts)
18. From the hearing...
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:18 PM
Jul 2019

I was taking care of mom, so was in and out. Someone said the head of the FBI hadn't even read the report. Unfugging believable.

Our Democracy is at stake and they can't be bothered to read the report, redacted though it is.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
14. This may be the nadir of American politics.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:51 PM
Jul 2019

We have had a number of low points, this one is pretty damn bad.

 

faymer7

(59 posts)
15. those Nadler and Schiff opening questions and Mueller's responses are sinking in slowly.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jul 2019

The media, at least the REAL media , should keep showing that over and over again. It should be the opening of every news show for the next six months.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
19. I replied to a DU post a few weeks ago
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jul 2019

about CNN starting to run ads for the televised testimony. It was so super hyped I immediately had a negative reaction. CNN was advertising it like it was a celebrity sporting event, cheap, sensationalized and tacky! It was obviously all about ratings and $$$. When I complained about this fact I made it clear that the testimony should be televised but I objected to how it was being set up. No wonder it was "underwhelming" as far as entertainment goes.

The M$M gave us the fucking moron and they will reelect him too...all for the almighty dollar. Fuck this shit!

sheshe2

(83,879 posts)
23. OMG! Brilliant
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jul 2019

Yeppers that is what they wanted.

Instead we got facts.

PS~ You really should make this an OP. If you don't wish to. I will.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
22. Facts are there and that's most important.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:52 PM
Jul 2019

The visual of Mueller's testimony could've been better. No?



Ageism? There are some 40, 50yr olds who couldn't keep up with JB or BS! There are *HUGH* physical and mental differences in older folks. So, do not judge folks by their age, look at their mental acuity and productivity.

sheshe2

(83,879 posts)
24. Yes. Ageism.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jul 2019

That is what is being said. It was not what I said.

Kudos to your husband's published physics paper, Duppers.

Aussie105

(5,429 posts)
27. Mueller did what I expected him to do.
Sat Jul 27, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jul 2019

Last edited Sun Jul 28, 2019, 12:36 AM - Edit history (2)

Choose his words carefully, and refer back to the report.

He was basically saying . . . it's all in the report, go read it, how the powers that be take it from here, is up to them.

Those people who expected Mueller to lead an insurrection and storm the gates of the White House to physically remove Trump & Co by force, will be disappointed by the hearing.

PatrickforO

(14,587 posts)
29. For what it is worth, I thought Mueller's testimony was very, very damaging. To Trump.
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 03:23 AM
Jul 2019

We did fine.

The media spin is just that - 'spin' designed to increase advertising revenues so their shareholders can make better profits. Has nothing to do with reality of Dems getting Mueller to state some very damaging things to Trump on national television.

Mueller did fine. The Dems did fine.

The Republicans, not so much. And you can see that now the way Trump is freaking out and tweeting all this psycho shit about Elijah Cummings being a racist and Baltimore being infested. Boy, he's getting some massive (and well-deserved) blowback on that.

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