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Whoa! Just 2 votes shy of a House majority of democrats support impeachment. (Original Post) triron Jul 2019 OP
I would have expected a lot more support then that by now 4now Jul 2019 #1
What?! It was in the 90s late last week. It was only 107 on Sunday. triron Jul 2019 #2
I just thought that it was more popular than that 4now Jul 2019 #4
what if we've already started? stopdiggin Jul 2019 #8
An enquiry is not even official impeachment proceedings, if half of our caucus does not even support Celerity Jul 2019 #3
silence does not equate to a lack of support standingtall Jul 2019 #7
An inquiry is indeed an official impeachment proceeding StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #16
An enquiry is not an official impeachment proceeding. This is Celerity Jul 2019 #19
The vote on impeachment comes at the end of the impeachment proceedings, it's not THE proceedings StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #21
I really think that this is part of the strategy. Every so often have here a Dem, there a Dem UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #5
At some point after we get past half of Congressional Democrats supporting standingtall Jul 2019 #6
Hopefully it will be up to 118 any day now. triron Jul 2019 #9
It will get there malaise Jul 2019 #10
Reminds me of my car ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #13
The thing with our parents is we all got old cars so we could learn malaise Jul 2019 #15
True, but there is something to be said for keeping up with modern traffic ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #17
True story - my two cousins were on the swimming and water polo teams for their malaise Jul 2019 #18
Any updates yet today? triron Jul 2019 #11
Do you have an up to date list? shanti Jul 2019 #12
Sorry. No. Anyone? triron Jul 2019 #14
If Amash is added it's 117 total. Also one non-voting DC rep supports it. triron Jul 2019 #20

stopdiggin

(11,338 posts)
8. what if we've already started?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:06 AM
Jul 2019

So no one on this string is persuaded that the inquiry is already underway? All over the news over the weekend. I thought this was pretty powerful, groundbreaking stuff. And a heck of a maneuver from House leadership! Nobody else?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/opinion/trump-impeachment.html

a lawsuit filed by the Judiciary Committee on Friday. The filing, demanding access to grand jury material from the Mueller investigation, says that the committee “is conducting an investigation to determine whether to recommend articles of impeachment.” In other words, the Judiciary Committee, which would oversee any potential impeachment, announced, with surprisingly little fanfare, that an impeachment inquiry is already underway.


Is a headcount really where the action is?

Celerity

(43,481 posts)
3. An enquiry is not even official impeachment proceedings, if half of our caucus does not even support
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:37 AM
Jul 2019

an enquiry, any hopes for actual impeachment proceedings are flushed down the loo.

standingtall

(2,786 posts)
7. silence does not equate to a lack of support
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:14 AM
Jul 2019

about a month ago there were only about 30 Democrats calling for impeachment or an impeachment inquiry. The momentum for impeachment is clearly building. I doubt an inquiry would start that didn't end in impeachment unless we plan on running it until after the election.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
16. An inquiry is indeed an official impeachment proceeding
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:53 PM
Jul 2019

The Judiciary Committee is conducting an investigation to determine whether to recommend Articles of Impeachment. Their work has been ratified by the full House, although that's not necessary.

Why do you think this isn't an impeachment proceeding"? What is your definition of "impeachent proceeding"?

Celerity

(43,481 posts)
19. An enquiry is not an official impeachment proceeding. This is
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jul 2019

self-evident by its very definition and title. It is an investigation, not a summation of evidence that leads to an up or down vote for impeachment.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
21. The vote on impeachment comes at the end of the impeachment proceedings, it's not THE proceedings
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:39 PM
Jul 2019

The judiciary committee conducts the ienvestigation and based on that investigation determines whether to recommend articles of impeachment. If so, the committee drafts one or more articles that are then sent to the floor to be voted on by the full House. If the house votes to approve the articles of impeachment, the president is immediately, by operation of the vote, impeached

So, if by "impeachment proceeding," you mean the vote by the full House on the Articles of Impeachment, you're right - impeachment proceedings have not yet begun. But under normal practice and parlance, impeachment proceedings aren't just the final vote, but the entire process leading up to impeachment and an investigation is the necessary first step in the process that ends in a vote on articles of impeachment. The impeachment investigation has begun and therefore, even if it:s not going as quickly as you like, the process is underway.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
5. I really think that this is part of the strategy. Every so often have here a Dem, there a Dem
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:59 AM
Jul 2019

everywhere a Dem Dem come out and proclaim impeachment. Impeachment is there, yet it's not.

It's a slow burn and always looming. Then the hammer is going to drop right on dotard donnie's empty fucking head.

standingtall

(2,786 posts)
6. At some point after we get past half of Congressional Democrats supporting
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:05 AM
Jul 2019

an impeachment inquiry it becomes the responsibility of house leadership to get the rest of the votes. There probably is only about 30 or 40 that really dread making a decision on this. Getting pretty close to the time when Pelosi needs to do some of that arm twisting that others on this board have wrongly told us she cannot do. After more than half of Democrats have publicly called for an impeachment inquiry pulling back from it would be a huge embarrassment.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
15. The thing with our parents is we all got old cars so we could learn
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:47 PM
Jul 2019

judgement on the streets. These days kids are given cars they cannot control.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. True, but there is something to be said for keeping up with modern traffic
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:53 PM
Jul 2019

Say, M, this is a pretty good analogy. The old folks want to take it slow and cautiously. The young folks want to zip ahead.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
18. True story - my two cousins were on the swimming and water polo teams for their
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:00 PM
Jul 2019

school. One Friday night there was this party. Older cuz drove the 30 year old VW Bug with his brother and two friends. Two of their classmates were given the family's latest car - a Toyota Crown (it was hot in those days). These two kids were their parents only children (a boy and a girl) - both died that night in a horrific crash as they came off a hill - speed and a road they didn't know did them in. The mother never recovered. My two cousins thanked their dad that night as the family huddled together in grief.

I'm for teenagers driving old cars until they really now how to drive and understand the meaning of judgement.

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