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Baltimike

(4,148 posts)
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 07:17 AM Aug 2019

It's so easy to see the connection

between MF45's rhetoric and the gun violence that plagues our nation right now. No one is trying to claim that "we didn't know what was in his heart" or any other silly mantra that comes up when these things occur. We see the cause...we know the effect. There is no argument

Russia hacked us. The only trickle of reporting we have seen in these past years has been that "it's worse than we thought" and then oh, remember how bad you thought it was after we let you know it's worse than you thought? well it's *EVEN* worse than that. The conservative press has allowed it to go from "meddling" to "interference"

And yet, reflexively, people toe the line of the Russian warriors to accomplish Putin's end...that no votes were changed, kept from being counted or in any other way hacked. It's bizarre, really, because the Russian HACK of the 2016 election is the biggest attack on our country in the history of our country.

They hacked everything. It's worse than we thought. Oh, wait...it's even worse than that, but they STOPPED at vote switching, or keeping certain votes from being counted. They hacked voter files, but stopped short of vote switching, or keeping certain votes from being counted. Each weird return was somehow juuuuuuuuuust past the margin of error, but they didn't pull anything with the votes.

They kept pissing on our boots, and telling us it was raining.

It's still happening now.

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It's so easy to see the connection (Original Post) Baltimike Aug 2019 OP
After leaving her position in the White House, Omarosa said that Snarkoleptic Aug 2019 #1
I wouldn't doubt it Baltimike Aug 2019 #3
Putin doesn't necessarily like Trump... ewagner Aug 2019 #11
that's neither here nor there...Putin has attacked our sovereignty. Baltimike Aug 2019 #14
Agree... ewagner Aug 2019 #20
I'm sorry Baltimike Aug 2019 #21
What we do know Botany Aug 2019 #2
we also know about hacked email and wikileaks being a Russian front nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #4
And that Russia stoked divisions inside America with "cut out" organizations and or on line trolling Botany Aug 2019 #5
Not to mention complete control over the Enquirer covers and the like Baltimike Aug 2019 #8
There's something fundamentally wrong when.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #6
This was the largest crime in America's history and the GOP is giving cover to the crooks. Botany Aug 2019 #7
The GOP ARE the CROOKS! pangaia Aug 2019 #10
The GOP's history is very clear. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #13
When I was a little boy in N.W. PA our next door neighbor was the county D.A. and his ... Botany Aug 2019 #16
The decent Republicans are a dying breed and have long been taken over Baltimike Aug 2019 #17
So Blotus said "This is the end of Scarsdale Aug 2019 #18
And the question again must be, why is Pelosi refusing to impeach? Perseus Aug 2019 #9
The question isn't that...we are at war, and our enemies have the Oval Baltimike Aug 2019 #12
+1000. ehrnst Aug 2019 #23
How will impeachment stop him from doing anything? (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #22
Agreed. c-rational Aug 2019 #15
Welcome to DU. nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #19
shameless kick nt Baltimike Aug 2019 #24

Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
1. After leaving her position in the White House, Omarosa said that
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 08:10 AM
Aug 2019

Trump wanted to start a race war.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/402512-omarosa-i-believe-trump-wants-to-start-a-race-war

Former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman on Sunday said President Trump is “disingenuous” in his efforts to help the African-American community, and accused the president of wanting to start a race war.

“We have a lot to lose right now,” Manigault Newman said on MSNBC’s “Politics Nation,” referencing Trump’s appeal to African-American voters during the 2016 campaign.

“I believe he wants to start a race war in this country,” she added.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
11. Putin doesn't necessarily like Trump...
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:44 AM
Aug 2019

...it's just that Trump is doing exactly what accomplishes Putin's goals...destroy the United States from within...

create chaos

create mistrust

create total mistrust of our own government, the intelligence agencies, the courts...every institution

create racial hatred and violence

create a divide between America and her Allies

create confusion in foreign policy

The winner...in the end...is Putin

Baltimike

(4,148 posts)
14. that's neither here nor there...Putin has attacked our sovereignty.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:48 AM
Aug 2019

we are at war, whether we like it or not

Botany

(70,588 posts)
2. What we do know
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 08:35 AM
Aug 2019

Russia was into all 50 states.

Putin had his people looking into the hardware and software of the voting machines and
central tabulators.

Russia hacked voter rolls in many states.

Russia was in @ least 4 counties in Florida and those counties were electronically linked to
the other 62 counties.

A member of the Russian Duma bragged about the election rigging and how it was a victory
for Russia.

Russia had to have inside help.

Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, and Kevin McCarthy all knew about the Russian attacks
prior to the election.

Exit Polls had HRC clearly winning.

Botany

(70,588 posts)
5. And that Russia stoked divisions inside America with "cut out" organizations and or on line trolling
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:07 AM
Aug 2019

Miners for Trump in Luzerne County, PA was Russian

Web sites that protested the NFL players kneeling such as, "Stand for the Flag, Stand for
the Troops, and Stand for the Anthem" were out of St. Petersburg.

Baltimike

(4,148 posts)
8. Not to mention complete control over the Enquirer covers and the like
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:22 AM
Aug 2019

lots of eyes on those super market covers

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
6. There's something fundamentally wrong when....
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:12 AM
Aug 2019

people around the globe with advanced computer skills can access our voting systems, spread hate, incite violence and spread terroristic dogma via an open pipe that is our beloved internet, yet we have no access to subpoena or even interview suspects involved in that mischief. Evil people are allowed to hide behind a digital mask.

Seems like a one-way street that inhibits justice.

Such was the case with a large number of people Mr. Mueller would loved to have talked to.

KY...........

Botany

(70,588 posts)
7. This was the largest crime in America's history and the GOP is giving cover to the crooks.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:14 AM
Aug 2019

Trump after Mueller appointment: "This is the end of my presidency. I'm fucked."

Spoken like an innocent man.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
13. The GOP's history is very clear.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:46 AM
Aug 2019

They don't care what it takes so long as it achieves and maintains power on behalf of their plutocratic supporters. Divide and conquer is their motto. My memory goes back through Nixon.

It's a crying shame our public cannot see the international complex web of financial backing given to these haters of democracy.
Trump, Pence, all their cabinet and most every GOP congressperson are simply useful idiots for the big money boys, including Putin.

We'll notice they never say anything bad about any of those people from whence their bread and butter comes.

Botany

(70,588 posts)
16. When I was a little boy in N.W. PA our next door neighbor was the county D.A. and his ...
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 10:00 AM
Aug 2019

... brother was Ray Shafer, Governor of PA. You would never meet a better man
and he was a Republican too. Those days are long gone.

BTW Nixon had him do a report on marijuana and Gov. Ray took it seriously and
hired scientists and social workers and educators and his result was, legalize it
it is not a problem. Nixon deep sixed the report.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
18. So Blotus said "This is the end of
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019

my presidency" When did that begin, exactly? He can not even ACT presidential. Not that it makes an ounce of difference to the traitors in the gop. Moscow Mitch prevented the evidence of Russian interference while the campaign was ongoing. He threatened President Obama that if the subject was brought up "it will look completely political" Why does Ivanka have Trademarks on voting machines???

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. And the question again must be, why is Pelosi refusing to impeach?
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:25 AM
Aug 2019

What is going on that Pelosi doesn't want to support impeachment inquiries? We need to get all the information, why is she and some other Democrats against it? It makes no sense to me.

That excuse of "we will defeat them in the ballots" is bull, nothing is being done to protect the election, nothing is being done to change the voting machines that we know can be hacked. There are plenty of videos on youtube that prove it.

We will not defeat them through votes, they will cheat like they did in 2016. I am convinced that Hillary won all the Electoral College states as well, the creature's margins were suspiciously low, just enough to turn the result in his favour, don't tell me that was a coincidence, that was planned hacking, and Pelosi doesn't want to get to the bottom of it? Why not?

Baltimike

(4,148 posts)
12. The question isn't that...we are at war, and our enemies have the Oval
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 09:46 AM
Aug 2019

Nancy is on a tight rope balancing justice and democracy.

President Pence can drive the getaway car to protect himself and let them get away with it.

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